R & D (Research and Duplicate) - Why don't we do it?

**ghosthunter** · October 8th, 2012 03:11 PM

Originally Posted by EVO-V

Ahh ok here are a few things to this. First, manufacturing is an activity any industrializing country should have. No ifs or buts about it.

As far as rice self-sufficiency, we are on target to be so by 2016 give or take a few typhoons. Don't feel so bad about IRRI alumni getting ahead of us, we did have a generation of opportunities lost to martial law and mismanagement after that. Its really just the reality.

Scales of economies in agriculture are achieved by agro-industrial integration. This, however, will not happen quite yet given the abundance of agricultural labor. In most countries where you have this being implemented, there is a growing scarcity and cost of farm labor.

Brazil took decades to get to where it is right now agriculturally. Somehow they were blessed with historical opportunities that were exploited. The investments from terra-forming unusable land to linking these via rail wasn't achieved overnight in tandem with scientific support.

Tata is to India as to what Hyundai/Kia/Samsung is to Korea. It is an industrial conglomerate that benefits from policies of protection. The Indian economy is fairly closed to foreign investments. They can afford to do so given the size of their market.

We cannot have a local car manufacturing industry because we do not have a local market to support such an industry. The annual total car sales is already small.

Tata can do it because it has a massive local market for it's products.

**EVO-V** · October 8th, 2012 03:19 PM

Originally Posted by ghosthunter

We cannot have a local car manufacturing industry because we do not have a local market to support such an industry. The annual total car sales is already small.

Tata can do it because it has a massive local market for it's products.

Indian companies, and their oligarchs, can hold out against foreign competition longer at the expense of the Indian public because they do have that local market. This affords them the right to snub free trade.

We can't be looking at this as entirely black and white though.

We are producing a few models locally. Remember that our geography here in SEAsia lends much to manufacturers spreading themselves out to gain incentives and advantages from each economy that hosts them.

The tsunami in Japan and flooding in Thailand emphasized the importance of NOT having all your eggs in one basket for these people too.

The auto industry is very complex so much so it isn't a matter of whether we produce a Filipino car or not, but more of what aspect/value of this industry do we occupy.

**uls** · October 8th, 2012 03:21 PM

Originally Posted by EVO-V

A far cry from the Willy's jeep replicas they use to make. Your point being?

"Your point being?"---> that's the best pinoys can build. right angle metal boxes

**dfopiso** · October 8th, 2012 03:21 PM

Originally Posted by EVO-V

As far as rice self-sufficiency, we are on target to be so by 2016 give or take a few typhoons. Don't feel so bad about IRRI alumni getting ahead of us, we did have a generation of opportunities lost to martial law and mismanagement after that. Its really just the reality.

2016? malapit na yun! sana nga maging rice exporter ang Pilipinas thereafter

pero tama ba, both Taiwan and SK started in agriculture before becoming an industrialized nation? (canaan farm in SK)

**Syuryuken** · October 8th, 2012 03:23 PM

Yung proudly Philippine Made na mga de lata at noodles di nga kayo bumibili yung sasakyan pa kayang "proudly Philippine Made"

**uls** · October 8th, 2012 03:36 PM

^^^bumibili ako ng century tuna

**Monseratto** · October 8th, 2012 03:43 PM

Originally Posted by uls

isuzu i-van

metal box with windows

I wouldn't call that proudly Philippine made. Yung "box" lang gawa locally, the rest is imported. Anyway isn't Isuzu closing it's assembly plant? Malamang out sourced 'to kila MD Juan's Centro plant...

**Helios** · October 8th, 2012 03:45 PM

hehehe century tuna, wise guy. okay let me get this straight, bec i'm pretty serious here. no skills at all beyond the usual flat panels and straight boxes? at all? what the heck are those ofw learning overseas?