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    #61
    Quote Originally Posted by cktlcmd View Post
    But isn't the design and technology they used standard? If yes, then the location of where it was assembled does not matter at all.
    The design and technology must be standard... BUT, the materials used are not exactly the same on every production plant... if the part is sourced from Canada, then the raw material used also comes there... kung sa Thailand gawa ang sasakyan, bakit pa kukuha sa Canada kung meron naman locally?? that will be additional production cost kung mag-i-import pa sila... materials have different properties even if they look the same due to the way they are manufactured (environment plays a major role)...

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    #62
    I just asked a the Services Manager at Toyota Bicutan about the accelerator pedal in our 2009 Corolla Altis, he said that the accelerator pedal unit is DENSO not CTS, all the parts of Toyota models sold in the Philippines are sourced from Japan Toyota's home market.

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    #63
    Quote Originally Posted by sm2by View Post
    I just asked a the Services Manager at Toyota Bicutan about the accelerator pedal in our 2009 Corolla Altis, he said that the accelerator pedal unit is DENSO not CTS, all the parts of Toyota models sold in the Philippines are sourced from Japan Toyota's home market.
    Thank you for the interesting info. I hope this can confirm that our cars here do not share the same defect.

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    #64
    FYI:

    http://www.thetruthaboutcars.com/exc...o/#more-343512



    This automotive web-blog has taken apart both the Denso and CTS units, as you can see, they're mechanically quite different.

    Strangely, the CTS unit seems to be better... heavier duty... but the way the pivot is exposed on the side of the casing could possibly lead to moisture build-up that the supplier theorizes is causing the issue.

    The Denso unit is completely different in the way it operates, and is nearly all plastic. They're still recalling it... it's unknown if it has its own separate issues.

    What this means for us is that while there might be issues with the Denso unit, it's not the same as the CTS unit, and unless there are confirmed reports from Japan of issues with the Denso unit, people with ASEAN or Japan assembled Toyotas shouldn't be too unduly worried.

    One worry of some industry observers is that the problem might not be with the pedal unit, but with the control software itself. And that Toyota's rushed "fix" of the problem might not fix it at all. But there is still no "smoking gun" pointing to numerous cases of "unintended acceleration" in local models... not yet.

    Ang pagbalik ng comeback...

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    #65
    Quote Originally Posted by Hanren View Post
    Toyota may have also set the tone for other manufacturers to issue their own recalls. Kimbaga, isabay na rin yung issue.

    OT but somewhat related:

    I just heard from CNN that Honda will also be having a recall of Honda Fits/Jazz sold overseas (about 64k units). This is due to concerns about faulty electronics inside the engine bay which tend to overheat/catch fire whenever it comes into contact with snow or water. It was reported that one person in south Africa died due to this incident.

    But it's a good thing that they're not covering up their mistakes.
    Kanina lang nasa tv news itong honda recall.

    Toyota said that models sold here is not affected with the recall (according to the same tv news program). Still hard to say if this is true or just another denial.

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    #66
    Kakatakot nga itong recall na ito, kasi baka nga sa design ang fault at di sa supplier. Ung sa China and Europe recall ba eh dun din ba nakuha sa supplier ng faulty part? Eh paano na lang tayo dito sa Pilipinas? Ung mga naka-encounter na ba dito sa atin sa Pilipinas ng sticky pedal ba eh nag-reklamo na sa Toyota? Sure meron na naka-encounter ng sticky pedal dito sa atin pero di na nag-reklamo dahil nga akalain na wala naman mangyayari kapag nag-reklamo pa sa Toyota. At sure na di lang sa mga mention na models naka experience ang mga Toyota vehicle owners dito sa atin.
    Sana magkaroon ng pangil ang consumer protection agency ng bansa natin para naman manginig ang mga big companies sa mga complaints ng mga consumers at mapaganda ang mga products na nilalabas nila dito sa atin at mapaganda ang serbisyo nila. Kaya lang naman lumabas yang recall na yan eh dahil sa USA nangyari yang mga complaints na yan at maganda ang consumer protection agency ng USA.
    Tanong, kung sa Pilipinas kaya ang case na yan, mapansin kaya yan?

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    #67
    Quote Originally Posted by lherma1988 View Post
    Sana magkaroon ng pangil ang consumer protection agency ng bansa natin para naman manginig ang mga big companies sa mga complaints ng mga consumers at mapaganda ang mga products na nilalabas nila dito sa atin at mapaganda ang serbisyo nila. Kaya lang naman lumabas yang recall na yan eh dahil sa USA nangyari yang mga complaints na yan at maganda ang consumer protection agency ng USA.

    Tanong, kung sa Pilipinas kaya ang case na yan, mapansin kaya yan?
    Its sad that statements like these reveal consumers' apathy on what government can do. I can't blame you though. Question is, have you tried approaching the company (then the government)? There are agencies in place where you can demand from companies should they not respond to your complaint i.e. DTI. If Pinoy consumers are serious about it, then they should file a formal complaint. Without a complaint, companies would not know about it. Moreso, government (so keep your letters, etc). Take the first step. Then see what happens. If its a legit complaint, then I believe that most companies who value quality will respond accordingly without pressure from the government. In this case, I believe that you're dealing with a company with a good service track record so I suggest that you take the first step and take it from there.

    Hope this helps.

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    #68

    So, it is the mechanical linkage. My initial impression is that it is because of an "electronic translation", necessitating a new firmware....

    9202:toothbrush:

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    #69
    Quote Originally Posted by weisshorn View Post
    Kanina lang nasa tv news itong honda recall.

    Toyota said that models sold here is not affected with the recall (according to the same tv news program). Still hard to say if this is true or just another denial.
    Read above your post again. US = CTS pedal supplier.

    Philippines = Denso.

    Completely different units.

    Still... we can't say if there are other issues, but no evidence has come out yet that Denso units are affected.

    Ang pagbalik ng comeback...

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    #70
    kung may recall ang toyota sa china at wala dito sa pilipinas ibig bang sabihin iba ang source ng parts sa china at dito sa atin. Para yatang hirap paniwalaan na ang china unit ay galing ng canada ang ginamit na CTS pedal.

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