LTO to impose up to PHP40K penalty if you dont transfer vehicle registration

**oj88** · October 24th, 2024 11:00 AM

Buti naman it was suspended.

It needed more than just polishing.... kailangan i-latero muna, masilya, primer, pintura, clear coat, then PPF. :D

**Motortrend** · October 24th, 2024 11:03 AM

Originally Posted by oj88

Buti naman it was suspended.

It needed more than just polishing.... kailangan i-latero muna, masilya, primer, pintura, clear coat, then PPF. :D

Or overhaul.

**dr. d** · October 25th, 2024 11:08 AM

Originally Posted by Ry_Tower

Relax na muna dr.d at motortrend. Hindi naman kayo affected malamang. Hehe

humihinga na po nang ma-ige, thank you.
heh heh.

seriously,
if LTO wants to have this quick-transfer rule a reality,
they must do their part as well.
instead of simply decreeing so, they should also make it easier for the car owners to comply.
everybody who has transfered car ownership, knows the hoops and hurdles that owners and buyers have to jump thru.
so LTO, why not make it easy for them? create many strategically-placed one-stop shops for the service, where everything can be done in an hour.
the ball is in LTO's court.

**Motortrend** · October 25th, 2024 11:24 AM

Originally Posted by dr. d

humihinga na po nang ma-ige, thank you.
heh heh.

seriously,
if LTO wants to have this quick-transfer rule a reality,
they must do their part as well.
instead of simply decreeing so, they should also make it easier for the car owners to comply.
everybody who has transfered car ownership, knows the hoops and hurdles that owners and buyers have to jump thru.
so LTO, why not make it easy for them? create many strategically-placed one-stop shops for the service, where everything can be done in an hour.
the ball is in LTO's court.

Agree with you 100%. After all, everyone here (including you and me) is or will be affected. This is tsikot.com, "The largest car forum in the Philippines".

**oj88** · October 25th, 2024 12:13 PM

FWIW, I think the AO means well and I believe it was envisioned in good faith.

But I share the same view with everyone... it still needs a LOT of work. I also agree that LTO should make efforts to make it easier for their constituents.

**carxynogen** · October 25th, 2024 12:22 PM

Dapat online na lahat.
Convenient na ngayon to pay online.
Nag improve na rin ang infrastructure at digitally accessible na rin mga systems (thanks to smartphones).

Start na dapat submit needed documents online, then sa agency na dapat verification ng mga na upload if legit or not.
Then once verified OK lahat, good to go na.
But if na flag as hot car, then dyan na dapat ang usual manual process (HPG).

Yung current manual system is dahil lang sa katamaran to digitize the records at hindi shared yung Database sa agencies involved.
Yung dumaan sa fixer usually hindi pa digitize yung documents eh.

**dr. d** · October 25th, 2024 12:42 PM

i think i speak for many,
"i am willing to pay good money, for the convenience of the service being offered."
i mean, i already forked over several hundred thousand bucks for the car, anubanaman yung ilang kaunti pa, for the convenient transfer process...?"

i can see it now,
"kawawa naman yung used car dealers, who have dozens of cars in their warehouses, all eventually requiring transfer ownership fees..."
sila kasi nagpa-uso nang open deed of sale, eh.
LTO can probably address these unique used-car-for-sale issues.

jeep doctor ph posted his arguments online.
he's not a lawyer, but his arguments do seem sensible.

**Motortrend** · October 25th, 2024 02:02 PM

Originally Posted by oj88

FWIW, I think the AO means well and I believe it was envisioned in good faith.

I guess I hold a different view for two reasons. The fines are excessive. As you pointed out here, a second hand motorcycle costs around 15k. The total fine is 40k.

Why require the seller to notify LTO of the sale if the the seller will not be absolved of liability anyway according to the AO? It's as if they just want the information from the seller to be able to fine the buyer. That's not good faith.

**carxynogen** · October 25th, 2024 02:26 PM

Originally Posted by Motortrend

Why require the seller to notify LTO of the sale if the the seller will not be absolved of liability anyway according to the AO? It's as if they just want the information from the seller to be able to fine the buyer. That's not good faith.

This, if absolved lang sana of any liability ang seller after ma report, then it is in good faith.
Purpose sana is para may record na ang LTO na the car is already sold and needs to be transferred to new owner.
Para if maharang during checkpoint and ginamit sa criminal activities ng new owner, peace of mind na kay seller/original owner as long as na repot na niya sa LTO.

**Motortrend** · October 25th, 2024 02:31 PM

Originally Posted by carxynogen

This, if absolved lang sana of any liability ang seller after ma report, then it is in good faith.
Purpose sana is para may record na ang LTO na the car is already sold and needs to be transferred to new owner.
Para if maharang during checkpoint and ginamit sa criminal activities ng new owner, peace of mind na kay seller/original owner as long as na repot na niya sa LTO.

^Exactly this.