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    #71
    Quote Originally Posted by papi smith View Post
    Ang pinakaproblematic dito ay ung hindi sila nag conduct ng info campaign kasabay ng pag publish nila so the public had at least 15 days before the order took effect last Sep 16. Dapat nga may at least 6 months grace period ito upon effectivity bago nila ipatupad. Ang problema is it just came quietly and swift into the night. Boom!
    Yes and no public consultation.

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    #72
    Quote Originally Posted by papi smith View Post
    Ang pinakaproblematic dito ay ung hindi sila nag conduct ng info campaign kasabay ng pag publish nila so the public had at least 15 days before the order took effect last Sep 16. Dapat nga may at least 6 months grace period ito upon effectivity bago nila ipatupad. Ang problema is it just came quietly and swift into the night. Boom!
    Isa pa yan. Seems walang public consultation eh. Pero wait lang natin, may magfile ng case against dyan para magkaroon ng TRO.

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    Quote Originally Posted by dr. d View Post
    yes, but the way the clause is written, it would seem the two statements run counter to each other.
    6.1 first sentence states that even if i had complied in submitting my deed of sale document to the LTO, i am still liable for said vehicle because the car is still in my name because buyer had not yet applied for change of ownership. "seller's liability is not extinguished."
    but in the very next sentence, it states that the Registered Owners Rules (including previous sale, of which the document is in their face) shall still prevail.
    does that mean, i still have to submit my deed of sale to the investigators, which they already have a copy of?

    ... i am not a lawyer, but that clause seems to have been written via cut and paste...
    That is just an AO, not the law nor jurisprudence. What the SC have enunciated in many cases before still holds.
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    #73
    This AO's implementation is suspended ...

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    #74
    Quote Originally Posted by 111prez View Post
    This AO's implementation is suspended ...

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    Good one, 111prez! They realized just how defective the AO was. At the very least, an AO that imposes excessive penalties should be clear and not leave room for interpretation.

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    #75
    Quote Originally Posted by Ry_Tower View Post



    That is just an AO, not the law nor jurisprudence.
    it may be just that, but it still got some blood pressures a'pumpin...
    heh heh.

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    #76
    Quote Originally Posted by dr. d View Post
    it may be just that, but it still got some blood pressures a'pumpin...
    heh heh.
    Yes, an AO that has the force and effect law better meet the stringent requirements of a valid law.

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    #78
    Natauhan na si LTO.

    Buti hindi na nila hinintay TRO. May isang transport group kasi na magsasampa na ng kaso

    Relax na muna dr.d at motortrend. Hindi naman kayo affected malamang. Hehe
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    #79
    "When bad men combine, the good must associate; else they will fall, one by one, an unpitied sacrifice in a contemptible struggle."

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    #80
    There's also R. Tulfo and his nonsense about the actual registered owner having to appear with every renewal of registration...

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