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    #1901
    Quote Originally Posted by jut703 View Post
    Perhaps rectified isn't the best term to use, since it implies that the first implementation was problematic. That's not my call to make, but obviously MMPC and Mitsu Japan don't consider it a design flaw (it's in their best interest to claim such). An independent testing committee should then validate this claim, but good luck getting DTI to do that.

    Again going back to the cases we've seen so far, if you step on the brakes before changing from R to N to D or any combination of the 3, and you're attentive enough to notice whether it's the accelerator or brake pedal you're stepping on, it shouldn't be a problem. The SUA isn't just because of wrong gear placement, but because of pedal misapplication.

    I remember a case wherein one guy rammed his Alterra into the service bay of one of our stations, killing a pregnant service crew. His first words? "The car suddenly accelerated". Of course, after reviewing the CCTV, the brakes didn't light up at all, indicating pedal misapplication. The family of the victim filed a case but they've settled out of court as far as I remember. The SUA claim of the driver held no water, since the Alterra isn't known as a SUA vehicle anyway. Montero SUA claims shouldn't be treated any differently, but because of social media hype, people are now easily concluding that it's the car's fault.

    And as we've seen in the case of this white Montero, even when it's undoubtedly driver negligence, we still have people defending the driver and claiming that the brake lights went bad right when they switched drivers, then worked fine again right after bumping.


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    Exactly my point. Andyan na ang evidence, kung ano ano pang sinasabi. Tindi talaga ng power of media

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    #1902
    I guess the Lopez Media Propaganda subcribes to this...


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    #1903
    Several politicians are supporting the victims... i wonder how ugly this will get.

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    #1904
    Quote Originally Posted by StockEngine View Post
    Several politicians are supporting the victims... i wonder how ugly this will get.
    First hundred units of the all new montero mapupunta sa mga politicians and mga journalist kuno na sumakay


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    #1905
    lagot na ang sales ng 2016 montero kung ano ang nakikita ng tao sa media yun ang pinapaniwalaan.

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    #1906
    Paano mag signature campaign ang 60,000 owners ng AT monteros to MMPC?

    db may change.org parang ganun online perition or aldub twitter

    Para once and for all sabihin ang totoo either 1) paglaban tayo ng MMPC na wala wala itong sua or 2) sabihin nila meron kahit small possibility mang yari kaya recall, service campaign, atbp or better than down payment trade-in value ng old montero to new montero (wc btw napaka mahal versus rivals)

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    #1907
    The problem with the shift safety interlock, Mitsubishi is not the only manufacturer like this. And even now, there is absolutely no requirement anywhere for the driver to press the brakes to go into D or R from N, except on vehicles with electronic parking brakes.

    (On some vehicles with EPBs, there is a function for it to turn on automatically when you stop.)

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    To call the Montero design a defect worth grounding the fleet is to ground almost all of the automatics on the road.

    Quote Originally Posted by shadow View Post
    First hundred units of the all new montero mapupunta sa mga politicians and mga journalist kuno na sumakay


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    So, I should change my tune?

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    Isang ligo lang ang lamang ni JamesD sa iyo bro.

    Now, that's scary. Was that in a MS in the Philippine highway??? What happened to the woman-driver?
    It's in one of the photos in the reports. Curiously, it's not one of the more publicized ones. That one can still be a pedal/mat issue, but not knowing if she was already going at speed or not, I can't say.

    Alam mo naman... ABS-CBN will give more air time to the ones with video, and with "victims" they can interview.

    Unfortunately, teh victims and the video fit the exact stereotype of "geriatric driver error SUA" (whether true or not), so they're not doing themselves any favors.
    Last edited by niky; November 30th, 2015 at 10:45 AM.

    Ang pagbalik ng comeback...

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    #1908
    eto lang masasabi ko sa issue na to...

    kung driver error nga talaga e bakit sa montero lang? bakit sa fortuner wala e mas madami naman ang fortuner sa kalsada? ibig ba sabihin ng mitsubishi e lahat ng t*ngang driver montero ang sasakyan tapos all other brands smart and alert drivers.

    e di mas lalo na ayaw ko nang mag-drive ng montero at baka matawag akong t*nga!

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    #1909
    I don't want to make an a$$ of myself and pretend to sound very technical.

    Hindi kaya dahil gated type ang shifter ng Toyota? In a way kahit paupuin mo yung tanga medyo mapapaisip? Hehe

    And again how come no stradas involved?
    They are one and the same aren't they?

    Nag aaya yung tropa ko mag Vigan kami next week, break-in ng Monstero niya haha game kako! Palitan kami mag drive.


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    #1910
    Quote Originally Posted by yebo View Post
    eto lang masasabi ko sa issue na to...

    kung driver error nga talaga e bakit sa montero lang? bakit sa fortuner wala e mas madami naman ang fortuner sa kalsada? ibig ba sabihin ng mitsubishi e lahat ng t*ngang driver montero ang sasakyan tapos all other brands smart and alert drivers.

    e di mas lalo na ayaw ko nang mag-drive ng montero at baka matawag akong t*nga!
    Sir meron din naman mga ganyan sa ibang brands. Mas madai nga lang sa MS. And I think posted na rin naman main probable cause, yung pwede mo ishift from P to R or D without stepping on the brakes for the early model.

    Buta as niky pointed out, hindi lang naman early model nang MS ganyan. Mazda nga ni jut ganun din.

    Kaya possible reason, those 97 people (because of the bandwagon mentalty of pinoys) rightly or wrongly put hte blame on the car. With ot without evidence(and it seems mas marami ang walang evidence)

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