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    Hahaha, sorry sorry. Just need to clarify that

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    planning to upgrade the HU. Ace Hardware sells a Sony HU with USB and Aux for 3.5k, didn't took note of the model though. will there be leaps and bounds in terms of sound quality compared to my generic one?

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    according to jhnkvn wala daw improvement sa sound but in my case head unit is one of the better ways to improve sound. A head unit that can get at a higher volume with no distortion is the better head unit regardless of features. I'm sure that the xplod hu can produce better sound than your stock hu but ill get a pioneer hu at the same price range.

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    Quote Originally Posted by jhnkvn View Post
    Yes that'll be okay. The important thing here is to first cover the entire frequency range, this means a subwoofer is almost always quite important to have.

    As for "active" tuning, well... there's actually no such thing. Active and passive are simply crossover terms. Active for those whose crossovers (high pass filter, low pass filter, bandpass, etc.) you can actively change. This is usually in the feature list of "tuner" head units such as Alpine's CDA-9887 or Pioneer P99RS. Passive on the otherhand means you have a passive crossover (like what is bundled with most separates) to filter the sound.
    Done!

    I got the...

    Pioneer DEH 1550UB
    Firland Seps EV-602
    Dominations Bud12
    Dominations Bud450
    Audiomax wirings
    Sealed enclosure
    E46 Headunit Panel
    Installation and Tuning

    For 26k. Ok lang ba?

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    The only reason why people usually go for aftermarket head units is because it's way way easier. If you're on stock head unit and it's quite easy to simply swap it out for an aftermarket head unit, by all means do it. It relieves a lot of headaches such as saving yourself the wild FR response of a stock head unit (with some having peaks of +5dBs) or trying to figure out your factory HU DSP filters and settings.

    What I mean in my statement in "wala naman masyado improvement in sound" is that most head units measure the same. What you buy them for are their features which, if competing, usually means for their equalizer tuning, time alignment, and other mumbo jumbo stuff.

    If somebody keeps on insisting that more expensive head units measure better, I'll throw you Erin's measurements: Why does a 45,000php Pioneer P99RS measure the same as a 20,000php phased-out Pioneer 800PRS? You can't even hear or perceive a THD% increase of 0.1%.. what more of 0.00x%? Don't take the BS about the advantages of a "copper plated chassis" or something.



    It's pretty hard to measure higher volume with no distortion. This is because most head units simply throw out 22W RMS regardless of whether it's a 3,000php Pioneer or a 40,000php Pioneer. If your music and driver is demanding 30W of RMS power from you, kahit ano gawin mo, you'll be distorting when all you can do is 22W THD>1%. If you have fixed power and you want to reach a higher volume, get the most sensitive speakers you can find.

    There are people who claim that head units sound "cold" or "warm" with some even describing the sounds with flowery words such as "extended highs, deep bass, warm vocals but isn't holographic in imaging". But do you think they can accurately guess which head unit is in a vehicle when they're blindfolded? Ha, I have better chances in playing the Mega Lotto.

    This is the reason why I used to joke around people that I should paste a McIntosh sticker sa kotse ko.. just for some magical pixie dust for them to say "woah" and tataas yun sound perception quality nila.. by a lot. And those are all benefits gained from... a sticker.
    Last edited by jhnkvn; June 3rd, 2013 at 12:50 AM.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Richard Sarino View Post
    Done!

    I got the...

    Pioneer DEH 1550UB
    Firland Seps EV-602
    Dominations Bud12
    Dominations Bud450
    Audiomax wirings
    Sealed enclosure
    E46 Headunit Panel
    Installation and Tuning

    For 26k. Ok lang ba?
    I'm not updated sa price, so I'm not the person to consult when it comes to those

    I would suggest that since Dominations na subwoofer and amplifier mo, then going for Dominations separates MIGHT save you some cash as dealers usually have promos on "same-name" setups.

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    Quote Originally Posted by jhnkvn View Post
    The only reason why people usually go for aftermarket head units is because it's way way easier. If you're on stock head unit and it's quite easy to simply swap it out for an aftermarket head unit, by all means do it. It relieves a lot of headaches such as saving yourself the wild FR response of a stock head unit (with some having peaks of +5dBs) or trying to figure out your factory HU DSP filters and settings.

    What I mean in my statement in "wala naman masyado improvement in sound" is that most head units measure the same. What you buy them for are their features which, if competing, usually means for their equalizer tuning, time alignment, and other mumbo jumbo stuff.

    If somebody keeps on insisting that more expensive head units measure better, I'll throw you Erin's measurements: Why does a 45,000php Pioneer P99RS measure the same as a 20,000php phased-out Pioneer 800PRS? You can't even hear or perceive a THD% increase of 0.1%.. what more of 0.00x%? Don't take the BS about the advantages of a "copper plated chassis" or something.



    It's pretty hard to measure higher volume with no distortion. This is because most head units simply throw out 22W RMS regardless of whether it's a 3,000php Pioneer or a 40,000php Pioneer. If your music and driver is demanding 30W of RMS power from you, kahit ano gawin mo, you'll be distorting when all you can do is 22W THD>1%. If you have fixed power and you want to reach a higher volume, get the most sensitive speakers you can find.

    There are people who claim that head units sound "cold" or "warm" with some even describing the sounds with flowery words such as "extended highs, deep bass, warm vocals but isn't holographic in imaging". But do you think they can accurately guess which head unit is in a vehicle when they're blindfolded? Ha, I have better chances in playing the Mega Lotto.

    This is the reason why I used to joke around people that I should paste a McIntosh sticker sa kotse ko.. just for some magical pixie dust for them to say "woah" and tataas yun sound perception quality nila.. by a lot. And those are all benefits gained from... a sticker.
    all I'm saying is there are head units that can go farther with no distortion. that for me can deliver more clarity. If you insist na wala, edi wala.

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    Quote Originally Posted by jhnkvn View Post
    I'm not updated sa price, so I'm not the person to consult when it comes to those

    I would suggest that since Dominations na subwoofer and amplifier mo, then going for Dominations separates MIGHT save you some cash as dealers usually have promos on "same-name" setups.
    That was the plan... But hindi kasya sa front ko... Heheheü msyado mataba yung magnet or makapal... Hehehe

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    Quote Originally Posted by Richard Sarino View Post
    That was the plan... But hindi kasya sa front ko... Heheheü msyado mataba yung magnet or makapal... Hehehe
    Will you have a problem if lalagyan ng spacers kung problem yung matabang magnets?

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    #640
    Ano po maganda speaker for a budget of 3-5k. Gusto ko po muna sana palitan front speakers ng FD ko, maganda po ba yun Kinetic KD6?

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