audio set-up for beginners [continued]

**monty_GTV** · September 7th, 2014 05:57 AM

Originally Posted by D3nb3r

That's ok, you'll never know baka bukas makalawa meron na naman mg benta nang amps nila

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meron yan sir d3nb3r, lalo malapit na pasko maraming darating na good deals

merong DLS A7 5ch amp binebenta sa fb ng car audio sale/swap kaso walang kontak yung seller

it looks old na pero nasa 30k pa rin...

**D3nb3r** · September 7th, 2014 10:35 AM

Originally Posted by monty_GTV

meron yan sir d3nb3r, lalo malapit na pasko maraming darating na good deals

merong DLS A7 5ch amp binebenta sa fb ng car audio sale/swap kaso walang kontak yung seller

it looks old na pero nasa 30k pa rin...

good to know sir Monty but 30k is way above my budget for an amps

. Budget meal lang kaya ko hehehe. I'm thinking of a Rockford Fosgate R400-4D lang.

**D3nb3r** · September 10th, 2014 08:56 PM

Curious lang mga sir. I know that the bass frequency is 20Hz and below and that is the subwoofer's area.
My question is more in the component set. Given the frequency response of a component speaker A of 35Hz-21kHz and component speaker B has 60Hz-20kHz, does this mean that component speaker A will have better bass sound? Or, we also have to factor the materials and technology that has been used in the development of the speakers(w/ respect to near bass frequency)?
Please enlighten me. thanks.

**jhnkvn** · September 11th, 2014 02:58 AM

Q: Given the frequency response of a component speaker A of 35Hz-21kHz and component speaker B has 60Hz-20kHz, does this mean that component speaker A will have better bass sound?
A: Nope

Q:We also have to factor the materials and technology that has been used in the development of the speakers(w/ respect to near bass frequency)?
A: Yes. Engineering is expensive though, physics is a better indicator of bass. Larger midbass = more air moved = more bass.

Recreating bass or midbass frequencies is simply the art of moving air. Frequency response is a bad metric in general since manufacturers quote them vaguely. You see, all of these component speakers' midbass can technically reach up to 20hz once you remove the filters. BUT, you can't hear it since the output is too low.

**D3nb3r** · September 11th, 2014 11:34 AM

Originally Posted by jhnkvn

Q: Given the frequency response of a component speaker A of 35Hz-21kHz and component speaker B has 60Hz-20kHz, does this mean that component speaker A will have better bass sound?
A: Nope

Q:We also have to factor the materials and technology that has been used in the development of the speakers(w/ respect to near bass frequency)?
A: Yes. Engineering is expensive though, physics is a better indicator of bass. Larger midbass = more air moved = more bass.

Recreating bass or midbass frequencies is simply the art of moving air. Frequency response is a bad metric in general since manufacturers quote them vaguely. You see, all of these component speakers' midbass can technically reach up to 20hz once you remove the filters. BUT, you can't hear it since the output is too low.

Got it sir jhnkvn. thanks.
So if there are 2 speakers with similar(but not the same) specs and only differ in woofer diameter like lets say a 6.5" and a 5.25", the speaker that has a wider surface area cone will be most likely have a better bass sound since it will move more air than the other.

**jhnkvn** · September 11th, 2014 02:49 PM

Originally Posted by D3nb3r

Got it sir jhnkvn. thanks.
So if there are 2 speakers with similar(but not the same) specs and only differ in woofer diameter like lets say a 6.5" and a 5.25", the speaker that has a wider surface area cone will be most likely have a better bass sound since it will move more air than the other.

Yes. There's a difference between extension (how low it goes) and output (how loud it goes). Truthfully, you ideally want all two. But the more important one is output. What's the use of extension if you can't hear or feel it.

**rafmac** · September 11th, 2014 04:56 PM

Had a Jazz before and to save space, what the installer did before was to create a false floor. Since malilim naman ang trunk ng Jazz they added an additional layer on top of the original flooring so the amp and sub is becomes an integral part of the flooring. Search mo na lang sa KAC my rides section

Originally Posted by enargie

Sir may I ask for advise for the right size of subwoofer speaker for honda jazz. Since maliit lang naman ang interior nya and I'm more inclined on sq route, would an 8" subs will suffice my need. As of now I already installed 2-way seps powered by my HU only, I'm planning to install an amp to power the seps together with the sub but need to know the ideal size of subs based on the size of my car. Thanks

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**GTi** · September 12th, 2014 08:30 PM

May tanong ako. May problema yung stock head unit ng 2011 Santa Fe namin. Ayaw nya magplay ng kahit anong CD, lalabas lagi "bad disc", ganun din dun sa SD card slot, although tinatanggap naman niya ang GPS map data SD card. Yung TV niya 1 channel lang ang natatanggap. Gumagana naman ng maayos ang tuner at aux-in. Ano kaya problema nito?

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**jhnkvn** · September 12th, 2014 08:51 PM

Originally Posted by GTi

May tanong ako. May problema yung stock head unit ng 2011 Santa Fe namin. Ayaw nya magplay ng kahit anong CD, lalabas lagi "bad disc", ganun din dun sa SD card slot, although tinatanggap naman niya ang GPS map data SD card. Yung TV niya 1 channel lang ang natatanggap. Gumagana naman ng maayos ang tuner at aux-in. Ano kaya problema nito?

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That's probably the head unit's "mother" board na mismo. In theory, it might just be the CD mechanism if lagi bad disc yun CD but since the SD slot is also affected, I'll suspect that it's the board itself.

Hindi ba pasok sa warranty ni Hyundai PH? Since that's going to cost a lot for repairs (almost brand new cost na yan)

**artsky** · September 14th, 2014 11:01 AM

Tanong ko lang, ganun ba talaga "ka-pangit" ang sounds ng stock headunits kaya need palitan if you want better sound? hindi ba puedeng lagyan na muna ng amps at change stock speakers? Ok naman kasi sakin yung tunog nung stock HU ng Vios 2013 pero yun lang need ko ilakas yung volume para may bass or mapuno nya ng sound yung loob ng car. Sa ganitong case ba ng listening style ko, palit HU ba ang better route?