Which is the best "Manual or Automatic"??

**niky** · February 11th, 2006 12:42 PM

Get a CVT for traffic. Easy to use, easy on gas. Conventional ATs guzzle gas in traffic, and the fluid gets hot on long trips, exacerbating this effect. (But then, manual clutches get hot in traffic, too). Some new ATs have 5 speeds and closer ratios, meaning they're not as slow as before, and they have better highway performance, but they'll still cost you more in terms of gas in traffic. Sadly... with some cars, you don't have a choice, as many only come in AT.

A Manual tranny will always transmit power most effectively... Manual models are usually cheaper and easier on gas... but if you can get the car in CVT, go for it.

**ryan** · February 11th, 2006 06:58 PM

If its 90% or more city driving, no doubt, AT unless gusto ko magka muscle pains.

Siguro 10 yrs ago pwede pwede pa MT for daily driving but with the worsening traffic situation, wag nalang siguro.

But if you live in provinces or cities outside metro manila, ok lang siguro MT.

**orly_andico** · February 11th, 2006 07:21 PM

the best of both worlds -- the SMG transmission in the BMW M5 :D
manual transmission with no slushbox!

**alwayz_yummy** · February 11th, 2006 07:54 PM

one good preference is this:

manual tranny --> not hard to maintain, just be prepared every 30-40 thousand kilometers for a pressure plate-clutch-relase bearing replacement. and its some what inconvienient in a very-very stop-and-go traffic.

auto tranny --> expensive when the clutch plates worn down. especially when your buying a pre-owned, you'll never know its true history. but its convienience can be felt in a stop-and-go traffic. car's with conventional a/t's ctend to consume more fuel than its m/t counterpart. this is so with electronic-controlled a/t's.

CVT --> most probably much can out-save a m/t because of an infinite number of ratios from its lowest to highest gear range. performance-wise it may outgun a m/t, but as they say, its up to its weakest link..and just like any conventional a/t, convienience in traffic is a good point of this, but once wrecked, you'll end up sorry..

now it boils to your preferences:
kung brand-new,
A. and you just drive your car from point a to b, then a cvt or an a/t (semi or conventional) is right for you.
B. kung you prefer mo in the long run makakatipid ka sa maintence cost, buy a brand-new m/t.

but the problem is MOST brand-new have m/t equipped trannies reserved for the base or middle models..and a/ts rule the top ends... well kung brand-new, maganda noon alam mo ang history ng car, including kung lemon yang nakuha mo.

but if you're just eyein for a pre-ownd ride, based on experience, my experience, it better to have an m/t than an a/t, even if kakilala mo nagbenta sayo.

un lang akin...

**alwayz_yummy** · February 11th, 2006 07:57 PM

Originally Posted by orly_andico

the best of both worlds -- the SMG transmission in the BMW M5 :D
manual transmission with no slushbox!

maron sa BM edsa, 330i 6-speed smg equipped. grabe na siguro price nyang M5 na yan..

**orly_andico** · February 12th, 2006 03:37 AM

uy.. di ko alam yan ah. i thought only the M5 had the SMG tranny. i guess it "went down" the food chain na if a 3-series has it.

**rdecruze** · February 12th, 2006 04:55 AM

Originally Posted by ryan

If its 90% or more city driving, no doubt, AT unless gusto ko magka muscle pains.

Siguro 10 yrs ago pwede pwede pa MT for daily driving but with the worsening traffic situation, wag nalang siguro.

But if you live in provinces or cities outside metro manila, ok lang siguro MT.

Well, not this year and more years to come! Wala na yatang hindi traffic sa pinas even in our province where i live. Sure you will get irritated sa dami ng tricycle.
I observed in Bahrain for example, wala ng manual kundi sa driving school lang and test. Even the oldest taxi ay a/t din....tatag! Anyway tubig lang price ng gas doon. Name all the brand of cars,suv,auv..all a/t. Parang ma o-obsolete na manual!!

**rdecruze** · February 12th, 2006 05:04 AM

Originally Posted by niky

Get a CVT for traffic. Easy to use, easy on gas. Conventional ATs guzzle gas in traffic, and the fluid gets hot on long trips, exacerbating this effect. (But then, manual clutches get hot in traffic, too). Some new ATs have 5 speeds and closer ratios, meaning they're not as slow as before, and they have better highway performance, but they'll still cost you more in terms of gas in traffic. Sadly... with some cars, you don't have a choice, as many only come in AT.

A Manual tranny will always transmit power most effectively... Manual models are usually cheaper and easier on gas... but if you can get the car in CVT, go for it.

Okey, CVT looks convincing. Meron bang CVT ang Toyota? Mitsubishi? o sa Honda lang!
How is CVT's driving in Baguio? Di kaya mabitin paakyat? Marcos highway for example, napaka haba ng tarik!

**rdecruze** · February 12th, 2006 05:18 AM

Originally Posted by alwayz_yummy

one good preference is this:

manual tranny --> not hard to maintain, just be prepared every 30-40 thousand kilometers for a pressure plate-clutch-relase bearing replacement. and its some what inconvienient in a very-very stop-and-go traffic.

auto tranny --> expensive when the clutch plates worn down. especially when your buying a pre-owned, you'll never know its true history. but its convienience can be felt in a stop-and-go traffic. car's with conventional a/t's ctend to consume more fuel than its m/t counterpart. this is so with electronic-controlled a/t's.

CVT --> most probably much can out-save a m/t because of an infinite number of ratios from its lowest to highest gear range. performance-wise it may outgun a m/t, but as they say, its up to its weakest link..and just like any conventional a/t, convienience in traffic is a good point of this, but once wrecked, you'll end up sorry..

now it boils to your preferences:
kung brand-new,
A. and you just drive your car from point a to b, then a cvt or an a/t (semi or conventional) is right for you.
B. kung you prefer mo in the long run makakatipid ka sa maintence cost, buy a brand-new m/t.

but the problem is MOST brand-new have m/t equipped trannies reserved for the base or middle models..and a/ts rule the top ends... well kung brand-new, maganda noon alam mo ang history ng car, including kung lemon yang nakuha mo.

but if you're just eyein for a pre-ownd ride, based on experience, my experience, it better to have an m/t than an a/t, even if kakilala mo nagbenta sayo.

un lang akin...

Brand new target ko! Altis or MX. My wife likes manual of Honda or Toyota.
I've experienced driving A/T outside pinas, all rented cars, and i like it!!