LTO to impose up to PHP40K penalty if you dont transfer vehicle registration

[dr. d]

Prospective. There is a transitory provision for sales made before the effectivity of the AO. They will have to comply within the periods provided from the date of effectivity of the AO.

This AO has a lot of defects. Somebody should question it. Look at the penalty clause.

The first line, the seller is liable. For the second line, who is liable? And the third line is just a repeat of the first and second. Or is it? Are you supposed to pay another 40k?

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i agree.
whoever penned it, was obviously an amateur.

[glenn_duke]

i agree.
whoever penned it, was obviously an amateur.

Saan kaya graduate mga yan ?

[dr. d]

Saan kaya graduate mga yan ?

no institution of learning, no matter how great or how un-great, holds the patent to un-skillmanship.

[oj88]

It would've been just fine if it's going to be applied prospectively.

The problem I see is that there's no stipulation on how far back the actual sale would've been to be included in this AO's transitory period.

Most, if not all documents pertaining to my old cars are either destroyed, lost, or thrown away. I can't even remember who the new owners are or know where they are now.

[Motortrend]

no institution of learning, no matter how great or how un-great, holds the patent to un-skillmanship.

Sometimes it's already the student.

[carxynogen]

Pwede kaya ma challenge to by someone na may malasakit sa mga motorista?
Another pagkakitaan na naman to ng mga fixer.

[Motortrend]

Pwede kaya ma challenge to by someone na may malasakit sa mga motorista?
Another pagkakitaan na naman to ng mga fixer.

Somebody should challenge it.

Sounds like a money making scheme. Take item 1 of the penalties. What's the purpose of the registered owner informing the LTO of the transfer if it is still the registered owner that will be liable? In case the registered owner violates item 1, then they can collect the 20k fine from the registered owner. Then, they can go after the transferee for a another 20k since the registered owner reported the transaction/transferee.

[dr. d]

At least sa current process, need na talaga ma report ng owner na nabenta na ang car.
This would easily allow HPG to determine the true ownership of car during accident.

in my last purchase of a used car,
it took me a year to transfer ownership to my name, because i kept postponing the chore. hassle kasi if i will do the legwork and spend a lot of time in the process.
in the end, i hired a walker to do the process for me. it took him an entire day to fix papers at the mortgage holder, get chpg clearance, then go to the LTO.

but if the transfer of ownership will entail a trip to the local LTO only, and not look for the first LTO the car was originally registered in, nor go to the chpg facility (twice, if one did not bow to the rush fee!),
it should be an easy job to effect transfer of ownership of car.
LTO claims they are now computerized. well, let's use them computers to make life easier for car owners!

so yes.
these guidelines on the transfer of motor vehicle ownership, leave a huge lot to be desired, and need to have them re-laundered, starched then dried, and ironed, before they may be hung out for the public to peruse.
... if open deed of sale is what they want to outlaw, all they have to do is to say so, and effectively penalize the erring parties.

btw,
where may one source the list of chpg motor vehicle clearance centers in ncr?
i googled, and failed.

[glenn_duke]

Magkano kaya monthly payola ni Guad** kay junior?
From RFID fines to this. Malamang may hindi nakaka quota.

[Ry_Tower]

Prospective. There is a transitory provision for sales made before the effectivity of the AO. They will have to comply within the periods provided from the date of effectivity of the AO.

This AO has a lot of defects. Somebody should question it. Look at the penalty clause.

The first line, the seller is liable. For the second line, who is liable? And the third line is just a repeat of the first and second. Or is it? Are you supposed to pay another 40k?

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4.2 is obviously for the buyer. Sino ba nagtratransfer? 4.3 is the dumb one.