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    #561
    ^^^

    ya they have an association -- probably called Gas Station Owners Association of ____________

    they meet once or twice a month in some restaurant in the city

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    Quote Originally Posted by uls View Post
    ^^^

    ya they have an association -- probably called Gas Station Owners Association of ____________

    they meet once or twice a month in some restaurant in the city
    Kaya pala, ayos eh. Anyway, that's life. Kanya-kanyang diskarte.
    Fasten your seatbelt! Or else... Driven To Thrill!

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    Ry, mukhang mahilig at may oras kang magbasa. You might find this interesting

    Politics for Breakfast: Setting Fair Oil Prices for the Filipino People (by Rep. Walden Bello)

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    i was joking

    but if that were true, tama ka... kanya kanyang diskarte yan

    instead of complaining about how other people are profitting off you, why not figure out a way to profit off other people... to even the score

    kung may diskarte sila, dapat may diskarte ka din
    Last edited by uls; June 1st, 2011 at 01:18 PM.

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    Sabagay i have to agree..it is this market players/speculators who muddled this pricing ng oil.. I once remember ang sabi ng isang major oil producer sa middle east. Hindi din daw nila kagustuhan ang pag taas sobra ng price of oil sa market..though directly nabibiyayaan sila. Market Speculators who do the speculation of shortage of supply and a big demand dictates the pricing and guess what where do these marketers/players really came from? .......Check on the announcement of CEO's of the Top World Oil Company...it goes like this " Thanks for the high prices of Oil we have a significant financial earning for this qrtr. compared to last year..etc..etc." Heard it also na sabi nila "We are living on the Misery of Others"..tsk...sama no? What the Philippines need now is to shift from Natural Gas dependency para mas longer and viable ang supply at cleaner pa sa environment. Though pricewise ksama din naman sya sa fluctuation kse it's marketed yata based on it's Bbl oil equivalent.

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    from the article above:

    At the international level, one course of action is, as suggested by the UN, to have oil-consuming countries negotiate a benchmark “fair” cost of oil with the Organization of Petroleum Exporting Countries and limit price movements within a band.
    yeah right. oil consuming countries negotiate directly with oil producing countries?

    as if they will arrive at lower prices

    how will they determine oil price? the producers will still look at spot and futures prices for reference

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    from the article above:

    At the national level, the government can impose price controls on the pump price of gas and diesel.
    price controls? magaling

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    Quote Originally Posted by Jiggs View Post
    Sabagay i have to agree..it is this market players/speculators who muddled this pricing ng oil.. I once remember ang sabi ng isang major oil producer sa middle east. Hindi din daw nila kagustuhan ang pag taas sobra ng price of oil sa market..though directly nabibiyayaan sila. Market Speculators who do the speculation of shortage of supply and a big demand dictates the pricing and guess what where do these marketers/players really came from? .......Check on the announcement of CEO's of the Top World Oil Company...it goes like this " Thanks for the high prices of Oil we have a significant financial earning for this qrtr. compared to last year..etc..etc." Heard it also na sabi nila "We are living on the Misery of Others"..tsk...sama no? What the Philippines need now is to shift from Natural Gas dependency para mas longer and viable ang supply at cleaner pa sa environment. Though pricewise ksama din naman sya sa fluctuation kse it's marketed yata based on it's Bbl oil equivalent.
    the biggest players in the oil futures market are non-commercial. meaning they're not oil companies or airlines or anything like that

    they're macro/commodities hedge funds. momentum chasers

    they buy contracts and sell the contracts before expiry

    they don't take physical delivery

    they trade paper

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    Granting na oil futures market are non-commercial..but are they really that independent? We may never know really the truth.. just playing devils advocate here...hilig kse ko sa mga Conspiracy thingy..hehehe.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Jiggs View Post
    Granting na oil futures market are non-commercial..but are they really that independent? We may never know really the truth.. just playing devils advocate here...hilig kse ko sa mga Conspiracy thingy..hehehe.
    there are 2 kinds of players in the oil futures market -- commercial and non-commercial

    commercial players are distributors, oil refiners -- basically those who deal with the physical commodity. they're in the futures market to hedge

    non commercial players are just bettors

    non commercial players outnumber commercial players

    futures pricing affects physical oil market prices

    the same way stock futures affect the stock market
    Last edited by uls; June 1st, 2011 at 02:39 PM.

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