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    #41
    So technically you can charge it's battery without ever plugging it in but just from the ICE.

    Also, size wise this SL6 is bigger than the RAV4 and CR-V.

    The soon to be released Sealion 7 in other markets is purely EV lang pala.


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    Quote Originally Posted by 111prez View Post
    patay ito pag ang X-Trail e-power ilabas dito at a price range of between 1.6M-1.8M
    I don't think the Japanese can match the pricing of BYD right now. The X-trail e-power's hybrid contemporaries from Japan are all ABOVE 2M (RAV4, CX-60, CR-V, Outlander). If, by some miracle, Nissan gets to price this at 1.7M, I highly doubt it will be as full-featured as the SL6.

    However, if the Xtrail gets to be in the 1.6M range and comes with a spare tire, then I would certainly choose the Nissan over the BYD, even if the features list isn't as long. I would certainly prefer a spare tire over the likes of a sunroof or a rotating infotainment system or a subwoofer.

    But, let's be realistic, Nissan will price the next Kicks e-power in the 1.4M to 1.6M range and the Xtrail will be a price segment higher.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Yatta View Post
    Yun nga sana mangyari, yung more established brands should release a more affordable and competitive model.
    BYD need to prove first that this model will climb-up at least top 5 sales on this segment.
    If that won't happen, then expect established brands to stay put on their pricing scheme.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Verbl Kint View Post
    I don't think the Japanese can match the pricing of BYD right now. The X-trail e-power's hybrid contemporaries from Japan are all ABOVE 2M (RAV4, CX-60, CR-V, Outlander). If, by some miracle, Nissan gets to price this at 1.7M, I highly doubt it will be as full-featured as the SL6.

    However, if the Xtrail gets to be in the 1.6M range and comes with a spare tire, then I would certainly choose the Nissan over the BYD, even if the features list isn't as long. I would certainly prefer a spare tire over the likes of a sunroof or a rotating infotainment system or a subwoofer.

    But, let's be realistic, Nissan will price the next Kicks e-power in the 1.4M to 1.6M range and the Xtrail will be a price segment higher.
    I woud prefer if Nissan removes some of the bells and whistles that are, IMHO, too distracting.

    I would remove speed limiters, lane assist, and other ADAS features save for adaptive cruise control. I would even remove that indicator that lights up in the side mirrors (side traffic detection ba yun?). I would even prefer a third party TPMS system to a pre-installed one.

    On the speed door locking sensors, seatbelt detection sensors, and rain sensing wipers, a 50-50 for me. Leather seats? Another 50-50 proposition for me.

    Adaptive cruise control, perhaps. Simple cruise control is enough more usable. But even without cruise control, it is okay for me already.

    I agree that a sunroof/moonroof is not necessary. So is a subwoofer and even speakers so long as installing a third party system is allowed and will not void the warranty.

    Rotating monitor, definitely out. How many times will one rotate this anyway?

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    #45
    People convincing themselves that chinese cars are good ... yet they won't use china branded phones and use iPhone and Samsung ...

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    Quote Originally Posted by Walter View Post
    yet they won't use china branded phones and use iPhone and Samsung ...
    Both of which are actually made in China, btw.

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    many countries would die if they do not use china-made products.
    we have forgotten how to manufacture...
    highs.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Walter View Post
    People convincing themselves that chinese cars are good ... yet they won't use china branded phones and use iPhone and Samsung ...
    IMO, phones are a different story.

    I tried using a Huawei and Xiaomi and I the UI reminds me of the older Samsung Phones.
    Really not for me.

    Cars... I guess they don't have what my family/wife is looking for

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    Quote Originally Posted by 111prez View Post
    I woud prefer if Nissan removes some of the bells and whistles that are, IMHO, too distracting.

    I would remove speed limiters, lane assist, and other ADAS features save for adaptive cruise control. I would even remove that indicator that lights up in the side mirrors (side traffic detection ba yun?). I would even prefer a third party TPMS system to a pre-installed one.

    On the speed door locking sensors, seatbelt detection sensors, and rain sensing wipers, a 50-50 for me. Leather seats? Another 50-50 proposition for me.

    Adaptive cruise control, perhaps. Simple cruise control is enough more usable. But even without cruise control, it is okay for me already.

    I agree that a sunroof/moonroof is not necessary. So is a subwoofer and even speakers so long as installing a third party system is allowed and will not void the warranty.

    Rotating monitor, definitely out. How many times will one rotate this anyway?


    This is what I find baffling with the BYD. They have the best automotive R&D in this part of the world and the result of that is cramming all manners of tech and features into the car.

    And yet they fail to include a spare tire. Buti sana kung run-flat yung tires eh hindi naman.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Verbl Kint View Post
    And yet they fail to include a spare tire. Buti sana kung run-flat yung tires eh hindi naman.
    It seems eto na ang trend ng mga car manufacturers. Look at the Lexus RZ, either they forgot the spare tire in the design phase, or talagang sadyang wala ng spare tire. Yes, a donut spare tire will come with the car, but nakapatong lang sa rear trunk taking up precious space.
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