audio set-up for beginners [continued]

**jhnkvn** · February 1st, 2012 01:11 AM

Actually, I can get those "high SQ scores" since I'm using a processor (JBL MS-8) alongside my head unit.

Hmmm, I've heard alot of budget meal setups using stock head units and I say it's pretty good if you don't count the absence of a proper soundstage. I would first suggest simple tuning: Raising the treble and midrange should add some clarity into the music. This also adds "brightness" to the music so use appropriately para hindi masyado sibilant yun mga "s" or just stop when you feel like it (like me). As an example, my sister's Mazda3 is running on treble +5, mids + 3, bass +5 and I felt that was the optimal stock tuning for it... +0 on all of it sounded horrible.

Also, the source plays a very big part in the quality of the music. I hope you aren't running anything less than 192kbps on them.

**cary2012** · February 8th, 2012 06:29 PM

now should your amp is rated HUNDRED watts 4 sales channel malamang 50 watts bridged yan. hence 50 watts sa isang seps and 50 watts for that sub. i does not always mean your limited to acquire 50 watts speakers. pwede ka bumili kahit A THOUSAND watts speakers kaso hindi busog yung presenters. this still had the likely of giving more pero it's important to get a high strength amp and my audio car dvd can get a high strength too.

**redtangent** · February 13th, 2012 11:12 PM

hi guys... sulit ba to?

FOCAL 2KP 165 separates
FOCAL amp 250x2 (i cant find this exactly sa website nila)
JL Audio W3 Sub
Pioneer Head unit 2 din (highest model noon)

2 years old pero super seldom used ( this guy has 14 cars hahaha)

60k... what do you guys think?? i will get the exact model numbers pero so far.. mas sulit ba to kesa

bumili ng bagong stuff for the price say FOCAL POLYGLASS or RE AUDIO or DLS na brand new?

**jhnkvn** · February 14th, 2012 01:20 AM

Where was it bought? Madami ka mabibili sa 60k.. seriously. It's always been one of the most hotly contested EMMA category.

**redtangent** · February 14th, 2012 02:26 PM

i think the owner bought it either sa JC or MIckey's 2 years ago sir.. i will have to ask...

i was just wondering if to get this set is better kahit 2 years old na seldomly used kesa sa lower grade na brand new now...

which is the hotyl contested EMMA category sir?

**jhnkvn** · February 15th, 2012 02:51 PM

I would first check what his Focal amplifier and the Pionner 2DIN head unit is. I have a more-or-less rough idea on what the amplifier is.. and if it's a Focal Power Dual Mono amplifier... the deal is pretty sulit in my case especially if it's fresh. If it's the Dual Mono, take note that it is very rare in this country since hindi siya naging "mabenta" in a sense when it was released locally.

Take note that the K2P 165 has been phased out since 2008 ata. So I doubt it's just 2 years old. The K2P 165 is the equivalent of the KRX2 nowadays (SRP: 34kish) and the most notable is its midbass (damn good..) and the titanium TN52 tweets were really detailed but harsh and often required off-axis installation to sound good. It's one of the component sets that convinced me of the Focal sound and made me buy and upgrade to my KRX3 (K3Ps at that time)

I'd say you need to replace the JL W3 subwoofer since after years of use laspag na yan. Cone surrounds need refoaming and its suspension is loose. I know since I used to own a JL W3v2 also.. served me a good 3 years before I find that a replacement is needed.

Make sure to guarantee where he bought his parts and who installed them. Meron din kasi fake na K2P 165 ;)

**redtangent** · February 15th, 2012 08:44 PM

confirmed sir 2 years na ang unit bought kay MICKEYS AUTOSOUND.

di pa sure which exactly ang amp pero for sure daw one of these guys (he has to check at home pa the unit, asa laguna pa sya today):

FP Dual Direct LE or FP Dual Monitor LE

which ons is better? are any of these amps "good"? bat hindi mabenta sir? based sa research ko one is analog and one is fully digital.. di ko lang sure which is which that uses DSP..

SPEAKERS FOCAL 165 KP2 2-way sir.

he insists its barely used ... its installed in his CIVIC and barely uses it dahil mas gamit ang AUDI at GTR nya :D whew.

still checking on the pioneer unit...

Originally Posted by jhnkvn

I would first check what his Focal amplifier and the Pionner 2DIN head unit is. I have a more-or-less rough idea on what the amplifier is.. and if it's a Focal Power Dual Mono amplifier... the deal is pretty sulit in my case especially if it's fresh. If it's the Dual Mono, take note that it is very rare in this country since hindi siya naging "mabenta" in a sense when it was released locally.

Take note that the K2P 165 has been phased out since 2008 ata. So I doubt it's just 2 years old. The K2P 165 is the equivalent of the KRX2 nowadays (SRP: 34kish) and the most notable is its midbass (damn good..) and the titanium TN52 tweets were really detailed but harsh and often required off-axis installation to sound good. It's one of the component sets that convinced me of the Focal sound and made me buy and upgrade to my KRX3 (K3Ps at that time)

I'd say you need to replace the JL W3 subwoofer since after years of use laspag na yan. Cone surrounds need refoaming and its suspension is loose. I know since I used to own a JL W3v2 also.. served me a good 3 years before I find that a replacement is needed.

Make sure to guarantee where he bought his parts and who installed them. Meron din kasi fake na K2P 165 ;)

**redtangent** · February 16th, 2012 07:53 AM

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mali pala sir,

amp included is FOCAL POWER 2.150 LE he got this daw 40k at the time.
Pioneer AVH-4250 dvd.

no included amp for the sub, current amp will be reused daw

Originally Posted by jhnkvn

I would first check what his Focal amplifier and the Pionner 2DIN head unit is. I have a more-or-less rough idea on what the amplifier is.. and if it's a Focal Power Dual Mono amplifier... the deal is pretty sulit in my case especially if it's fresh. If it's the Dual Mono, take note that it is very rare in this country since hindi siya naging "mabenta" in a sense when it was released locally.

Take note that the K2P 165 has been phased out since 2008 ata. So I doubt it's just 2 years old. The K2P 165 is the equivalent of the KRX2 nowadays (SRP: 34kish) and the most notable is its midbass (damn good..) and the titanium TN52 tweets were really detailed but harsh and often required off-axis installation to sound good. It's one of the component sets that convinced me of the Focal sound and made me buy and upgrade to my KRX3 (K3Ps at that time)

I'd say you need to replace the JL W3 subwoofer since after years of use laspag na yan. Cone surrounds need refoaming and its suspension is loose. I know since I used to own a JL W3v2 also.. served me a good 3 years before I find that a replacement is needed.

Make sure to guarantee where he bought his parts and who installed them. Meron din kasi fake na K2P 165 ;)

**jhnkvn** · February 16th, 2012 01:16 PM

If then so, I wouldn't get it

The fact is that he simply depreciated the gears around 20% and that's up to you to decide whether it's worth it or not. Personally, I wouldn't get it unless it's around 45k na.

The Focal Power, or FP for short, might retail at around 40k (not sure ako sa price dati) but the internals isn't really anything to go "wow" inside. In fact, its successor, the FPS (Focal Power Symmetric) has better internals and sounds better with a 2-channel amplifier priced at 26k and the 4-channel at 38k. Hindi siya ganun ka-benta dati because it isn't really bang-per-buck at its category. At those prices I can get myself a Genesis Dual Mono and it'll sound better.

The Pioneer AVH4250 is priced at less than 20k nowadays brand new. So take that into account.

So his breakdown of 60k is like:
FOCAL 2KP 165 separates - 15k
FOCAL amp - 25k
JL Audio W3 Sub - 6k
Pioneer 4250 - 14k

Errr... nope. Still not gonna get it even if it's rarely used.

#1 The KP2 has a sale back in 2008 where it was priced at 18k brand-new to combat the fakes out in the market.
#2 For 25k, I could get myself a 4-channel PG amplifier or a Sands David II amplifier and I get flexibility of a 4-channel to boot! If you like 2-channels, then get yourself a FPS 2channel.
#3 I'll get a Polk MM1024 or a entry-level Image Dynamics sub at 6k
#4 And throw a few thousands more to get the 4250

**mda** · March 6th, 2012 03:28 PM

Hey all. Looking for a 2DIN HU for our 2007 Prado.

Yung stock kasi nun, may cassette pa:

I don't plan to upgrade the sounds further. I'd just like something entry level with USB/Ipod/Aux.

The cheaper, the better. **In line with this, should I consider a 1DIN nalang?**

We tried using the Cassette tape kasi with an auxiliary 3.5 cord. Kapag nalubak yung car, mag re-reset yung play.

Dapat plug and play naman ito diba? The stock unit is an old Kenwood yata.

Any suggestions what HU to look for and where to get it? Thanks.