audio set-up for beginners [continued]

[markygy]

Salamat po sir jhnkvn. Nagtingin tingin po ako ng mga HU at may 2 na lang po akong pinagpipilian. Kenwood KDC X7013U(PHP9500) at Pioneer X7550SS(PHP5600) pareho silang may 3 na pre out *4v. Alin po kaya ang mas ok sa dalawa? Tapos ang amplifier ay yung Lightning Lab AMF-4100S na 4 channel. Ang naisip ko po ay ibbridge yung 2 channel ng amp para sa subwoofer tapos yung dalawang channel ay para sa tweeter at midrange. Tama po ba yung naiisip ko o mas magandang monoblock amp na lang ang bilhin ko para sa subs tapos yung separates ko po ay sa HU na nakadiretso? (Bale yung mga separates ko po rh mga generic lang, pag iipunan pa ulit para makabili ng mas magandang klase, haha) medyo mahaba na, tanong na lang po ako ulit base sa mga isasagot nyo mga master. Salamat po.


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Yun sa HU you can go with either. Personally yun piooner din ang vote ko.
Tama na yan naisip mo na e bridge ang dalawang channel to power the sub. Ang tanong kung ano mismong sub ang balak mo ilagay.

[adrian12]

since you're willing to spend as much as 9.5k on HU, i'd rather have the x9650bt (Php8000) OR go with that x7550 (5.6k) plus Auditor RIP 165S * 4.8k (owned by Focal, IMO one of the best bang for the buck seps) or its new version Focal Auditor R-165S2 (hopefully not far from the price of the former) or JBL GT0 seps...like what jhnkvn said, for base unit, either alpine or pioneer.

AMF-4100S would be 200WRms x 2 * 4ohm if i'm not mistaken, and assuming na ang JBL sub mo is either 12" GT0 (300W) o GT5 (275W) series SVC, kulang sa power yung sub. Instead of buying a mono-amp, don't buy the LL amp and just buy a better 4ch amp like Sound Magus 160.4 and set it up as 3ch - jan sigurado busog at happy ang JBL sub mo.

Sir, san po kayo nakakita ng x9650bt na 8k lang? Ang mahal po kasi ng nakita ko sa sulit eh. Yung mga seps po, next ko pang bibilhin pag nakaipon ulit pero salamat po sa suggestion. Yung subs ko naman po eh yung jbl gt5. Sa ngayon po hayaan ko muna syang magkulang ng pagkain * 200 watts dahil sa bridged na amf4100, busugin ko po sya nxt time na magkabudget ulit, bibilhan ko po ng sariling mono amp yung subs tas yung amf ko po eh para na lang sa mga seps ko. Mga plano pa lang po yan, di pa kasi alam kung kelan ulit magkakabudget. Hahaha. Last na po, kung may link ka po o shop para dun sa 8k na x9650bt, penge po ako. Thanks po.




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[adrian12]

Aside from pre-outs, also look for features. It's not fair for me to simply judge a head unit based on price and brand, but if you want a blind vote, I'll pick the Pioneer since it's more affordable.

Yes, you can just bridge it for the subwoofer and use the remaining two channels for your frontstage which will have passive crossovers naman.

The only reason you might want to get a monoblock is if you think you need more power whether that be more watts at a given ohms or you plan on lessening the resistance (ohms) to get more power. Monoblocks excel because a lot of them are stable given 2-ohms and the more expensive ones are stable up to 1 ohm. On the otherhand, 4 channel bridging is usually stuck at 4 ohms.

Yes sir, naconsider ko din po yung mga features, halos andun na din naman po kasi lahat ng gusto ko. Ang di ko lang po alam eh kung future proof na po sila, yung kung magagamit ko pa din po if ever gusto ko pang pagandahin ulit yung setup ko.
Tapos sir, another newbie question, yung AMF4100s po ba o kahit anung 4 channel amp ay pwedeng i-bridge yung 3 channel o lahat ng channel? Sorry, wala pong idea. Naiisip ko lang po kasi eh kung kulang yung power ng 2 channel na nakabridge sa sub eh susubukan ko pong i-bridge yung 3 channel para sa sub tas isang channel na lang magsshare yung mid at tweeter ko since mga stock lang naman po sila. Salamat po ulit.


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[adrian12]

Yun sa HU you can go with either. Personally yun piooner din ang vote ko.
Tama na yan naisip mo na e bridge ang dalawang channel to power the sub. Ang tanong kung ano mismong sub ang balak mo ilagay.

Thanks po sir. Jbl gt5 12in po gamit ko na sub tas l-ported yung enclosure.


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[adrian12]

Sorry double post

[jhnkvn]

Yes sir, naconsider ko din po yung mga features, halos andun na din naman po kasi lahat ng gusto ko. Ang di ko lang po alam eh kung future proof na po sila, yung kung magagamit ko pa din po if ever gusto ko pang pagandahin ulit yung setup ko.
Tapos sir, another newbie question, yung AMF4100s po ba o kahit anung 4 channel amp ay pwedeng i-bridge yung 3 channel o lahat ng channel? Sorry, wala pong idea. Naiisip ko lang po kasi eh kung kulang yung power ng 2 channel na nakabridge sa sub eh susubukan ko pong i-bridge yung 3 channel para sa sub tas isang channel na lang magsshare yung mid at tweeter ko since mga stock lang naman po sila. Salamat po ulit.


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Take it from me, there's no such thing as future-proofing in budget head units. Today's feature list may include Bluetooth and USB connectivity but expect head units a decade from now to have features such as Apple AirPlay built-in or digital radio (if ever magkaroon tayo). But as long as nothing breaks down, expect them to still work if ever tinambak mo sa bodega tapos binalikan mo after a few years of storage.

What bridging means is that you combine the output of two channels to provide the effect of a mono amplifier. In other words, you can only bridge two channels - bawal tatlong channels into one. For 4-channel amplifiers, most of them are stable to run double bridged naman. In other words, from 4x100.. you can bridge 2-2 and get 2x200W. This "flexibility" is one of the reasons why I like 4-channel amplifiers over 2-channel and mono amplifiers.

Yun usual diagram dyan is that:
Channel 1 - Right Speakers (tweeter + midbass + passive crossover connecting both drivers)
Channel 2 - Left Speakers (tweeter + midbass + passive crossover connecting both drivers)
Channels 3&4 - Subwoofer (bridged)

Post lang if you have more questions

[adrian12]

Take it from me, there's no such thing as future-proofing in budget head units. Today's feature list may include Bluetooth and USB connectivity but expect head units a decade from now to have features such as Apple AirPlay built-in or digital radio (if ever magkaroon tayo). But as long as nothing breaks down, expect them to still work if ever tinambak mo sa bodega tapos binalikan mo after a few years of storage.

What bridging means is that you combine the output of two channels to provide the effect of a mono amplifier. In other words, you can only bridge two channels - bawal tatlong channels into one. For 4-channel amplifiers, most of them are stable to run double bridged naman. In other words, from 4x100.. you can bridge 2-2 and get 2x200W. This "flexibility" is one of the reasons why I like 4-channel amplifiers over 2-channel and mono amplifiers.

Yun usual diagram dyan is that:
Channel 1 - Right Speakers (tweeter + midbass + passive crossover connecting both drivers)
Channel 2 - Left Speakers (tweeter + midbass + passive crossover connecting both drivers)
Channels 3&4 - Subwoofer (bridged)

Post lang if you have more questions

Salamat sa laging pagsagot ng mga tanong ko sir. Sana di ka magsawa sa pagsagot. Mukhang naubusan ako ng tanong ngayon sir, mag iipon muna ako ulit ng mga tanong. Haha.


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[ezem]

Sir, san po kayo nakakita ng x9650bt na 8k lang? ... kung may link ka po o shop para dun sa 8k na x9650bt, penge po ako. Thanks po.




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here's your link para sa 8k na x9650bt...click here

a little piece of advice...for bnew gears, better buy from reputable shops katulad nung sa link...

[adrian12]

here's your link para sa 8k na x9650bt...click here

a little piece of advice...for bnew gears, better buy from reputable shops katulad nung sa link...

Thanks sir sa link. Napaisip tuloy ako kung alin ang bibilhin ko, kung yung pioneer na x7550sd o x9650bt. Haha.

May bago na po akong tanong mga sir, alin po kaya mas maganda yung LL AMF4100s o yung sound magus c160. Mas mahal po kasi yung c160, ang tanong konpo eh mas sulit po ba kung yun na lang ang bibilhin ko kesa sa amf4100? Salamat po ulit.


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[ezem]

Thanks sir sa link. Napaisip tuloy ako kung alin ang bibilhin ko, kung yung pioneer na x7550sd o x9650bt. Haha.

May bago na po akong tanong mga sir, alin po kaya mas maganda yung LL AMF4100s o yung sound magus c160. Mas mahal po kasi yung c160, ang tanong konpo eh mas sulit po ba kung yun na lang ang bibilhin ko kesa sa amf4100? Salamat po ulit.


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drop the LL and buy a 4ch amp na higher capacity para maiwasan mo yung bili, then replace kasi mapapagastos ka lang lalo. do it right the first time.

if against LL, my vote would go on the magus...but then again, old model na yang c160, ang new model nyan e VS160.4, should be at the same price range. pero both are great amps for their price. 350W on bridge mode also kaya busog na sub mo.

either buy the x7550sd then, you can also buy the Auditor seps or buy the x9650bt then ipon mode na lang uli para sa seps sa susunod.