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**jmpet626** · July 10th, 2010 12:45 AM

Originally Posted by madkatz

Actually we have tried the griots 5 DA polisher, and its only with their version two did they incorporate enough power to do the corrections better than PC, but the draw back that we noticed was that the Griots wiggle and vigrate more than the PC, we think its not that balanced as compared to the Griots, then again maybe its because we used a different counterweight for a different backing plate, see we used the counterweight for the 4 inch pads with a 5 inch backing plate.

Ah ok dapat sakto pala yung counterweight sa gamit na backing plate. Tinignan ko yung portercable yung default niya na counterweight is for 5 inch na backing plate.

**madkatz** · July 10th, 2010 12:48 AM

Originally Posted by Reepicheep

Wait, please do enlighten me on this. I've read on several online posts that using detergent soap can leave minute particles on the fibers that can cause paint marring later on. So right now, I'm using diluted liquid soap and warm water to clean my towels. So, would this degreaser + perla combination produce better results?

That holds true if the towel is not rinsed properly, if a towel is rinsed properly it should not hold any particles in the towel, that scenario is when you dump the towels on a wash bucket fill it up with water and pour on the powdered detergent, normally we would recommend you pour the powder unto the water first and let it melt away until no solid particles is left at the bottom before you dump in your MF cloths, and this scenario only happens with powdered detergents because they get stuck inbetween the fibers, if you're using diluted liquid then its no problem, and using warm water can really help in removing oil based wax and polishes, using a degreaser would make cleaning and removing those large clusters of wax and polishes easier but it doesn't mean that it makes it cleaner, i usually recommend degreasers for really tough waxes like collinites, but aside from that even if you use a degreaser i would still suggest you properly wash your towels, and repeated washing can help make sure its really clean, honestly you can also get the same results with just using any liquid detergent when it comes to cleaning the towel, perla just helps in making the towel softer, and of course air drying it under the shade also helps make it softer, again degreasers are mainly just used for removing big clusters of waxes and polishes and take note that not all MF cloths are recommended to be used with these kinds of chemicals

**madkatz** · July 10th, 2010 12:50 AM

Originally Posted by jmpet626

Ah ok dapat sakto pala yung counterweight sa gamit na backing plate. Tinignan ko yung portercable yung default niya na counterweight is for 5 inch na backing plate.

yeah... the griots i think came with a counterweight for a 4 inch pad, but if you read on some forums most people also complain about griots jumping and vibrating more than the PC i dunno why but its definitely more powerful than the PC and a lot noisier hahaha

**madkatz** · July 10th, 2010 12:53 AM

Originally Posted by Chikselog

Time to wash the Vios again tomorrow. Hopefully meron pang 476 hehe. It's been 2 weeks since I applied the 2nd coat of 476. And 1 week mahigit na no-washing. Hahaha. No time kasi.

*madkatz
mam paano po solusyon sa "mapping" sa isang part ng paint? Yung parang bilog na shape niya. Para bang nabalatan yung paint.

Hmmm we'll have to check on that personally, but in the mean time try a Step 1 to 3 process and check if the prewax cleaner can remove the mapping

**Chikselog** · July 10th, 2010 12:55 AM

Originally Posted by madkatz

Hmmm we'll have to check on that personally, but in the mean time try a Step 1 to 3 process and check if the prewax cleaner can remove the mapping

Ay di po pala sa akin hehe. Dun lang sa civic ng kakilala ko, sa hood nya. May multiple mappings. Sige po try ko step 1,2,3. Hehe.

**kafph2000** · July 10th, 2010 01:35 AM

*madkatz, thanks ma'am for the reply. Siguro nga fatigue lang pumatay sa desired results ko hehe

**rico_g** · July 10th, 2010 02:22 AM

Question.. I have less than a week old fleetwax/476s on my car... excellent beading, kaso, when left to dry, nagkakaroon ng water marks...

I tried ONR No rinse (1:256) and waterless solution (1:32), pero di natanggal... then tried nanosliq, ganun pa rin, does this mean i have to wax it once more with 476s?

I thought the benefit of good waxes, aside from protecting the paint, is to make these water marks easy to remove with just a wash. normal lang ba tlga un?

**scharnhorst** · July 10th, 2010 09:20 AM

*PSI: hindi ko linagyan ng QD yung MF applicator... kuha ka na rin ng OCW sir!

*madkatz: pretty satisfied with the performance of OCW so far, very, very good shine, and I can almost just flick off droppings and tree sap (after spraying a little bit of QD)

going to see if washing's going to strip it off today. hehe.

lagyan ko na rin ng booster wax for even more protection

**PSI** · July 10th, 2010 10:43 AM

*scharnhorst, dadatig din tayo diyan.... ang kunin mo fleet....have tried it sa hood/roof/trunk (liquid) ang lupit.....

*rico, idol baka a:155 or 1:33 kaya di natangal HEHEHEHE! joke joke....wait natin si mam katz....pero it should not be the case.....tama naman yung sabi mo...baka naman me naiingit sa oto mo kaya kung ano binuhus diyan? sabi ko sayo palit tayo mags eh hehehe

**madkatz** · July 10th, 2010 11:19 AM

Originally Posted by rico_g

Question.. I have less than a week old fleetwax/476s on my car... excellent beading, kaso, when left to dry, nagkakaroon ng water marks...

I tried ONR No rinse (1:256) and waterless solution (1:32), pero di natanggal... then tried nanosliq, ganun pa rin, does this mean i have to wax it once more with 476s?

I thought the benefit of good waxes, aside from protecting the paint, is to make these water marks easy to remove with just a wash. normal lang ba tlga un?

Hmm thats odd, it should make removing water marks easier, on the 6 cars we tested with fleet wax from the start of the rainy season we still haven't got any real permanent watermarks and most came off with just a wash, may i ask what kind of water was left to dry on the paint? so far only acid rain can penetrate through those kinds of waxes but its been raining frequently so im kinda crossing that out since acid rain is the strongest when for days it hasn't rained and it suddenly rained, and as with hard water spots these are the more common especially when you leave tap water to dry on paint but it should also be easy to remove with a QD, are they visible when dry? or are they only visible when you pass it with a damp cloth? Maybe you can bring it when you guys have another meet up and let dwin take a look at it.