E10 Ethanol, bad for your engine & economy? [MERGED]

[theveed]

I asked my sis-in-law's husband (works for Shell sa refinery), 92+ octane daw yung E10 ng Shell...

[eclipseds]

I asked my sis-in-law's husband (works for Shell sa refinery), 92+ octane daw yung E10 ng Shell...

Hmn, this is a pity. I was hoping maging 95+ sya at the very least. Base on the article, Ethanol should add 2-3 points to the Octane value.

[Mguy]

...Mguy, yung kapitolyo is the one along shaw right? gas is really cheaper there compared to other areas coz super unleaded is already 39.++ in most stations.

Correct. Most of the gas stations in that strip of shaw from Kapitolyo to C-5 sell gasoline usually .50 to 1.00 lower than other gasoline stations. Don't know why though.

Going back to this e10, mileage does not look promising as I've notice the needle on the fuel gauge drops faster now vis-a-vis the km reading on my odometer. I usually consume 11kpl but from the way its going I might be lucky just to get 10kpl.

[ghosthunter]

Going back to this e10, mileage does not look promising as I've notice the needle on the fuel gauge drops faster now vis-a-vis the km reading on my odometer. I usually consume 11kpl but from the way its going I might be lucky just to get 10kpl.

I mentioned earlier that ethanol blended gasoline gives less fuel milage than regular unleaded gasoline. Given that, its NOT economical to use E10 gasoline for the typical car owner.

I think the problem with E10's pricing is the cost of ethanol production is not cheaper than gasoline. The main concept of using ethanol is to save our dollars from buying foreign oil for fuel. If we can grow our own fuel, even at a fraction, it will save the country money in the long run. But even then, it's NOT economical to use E10 gasoline for the typical car owner who is more concerned about maximizing his limited monthly budget.

[niky]

Actually, our problem with ethanol cost right now is production. With higher volumes as other gas stations enter the market for ethanol, production and processing should become more efficient.

It'll take a while, but we do have the capacity to do a "Brazil" and produce enough ethanol locally to offset oil imports by quite a bit. It just requires willpower and investment.

[niky]

***double post*** (meridian sucks...)

[niky]

Actually, our problem with ethanol cost right now is production. With higher volumes as other gas stations enter the market for ethanol, production and processing should become more efficient.

It'll take a while, but we do have the capacity to do a "Brazil" and produce enough ethanol locally to offset oil imports by quite a bit. It just requires willpower and investment.

[buknoy2002]

shell e10 unleaded at 92 octane??

how come sa seaoil e 95 octane ang e10 unleaded?

[momoyster]

i read in the newspapers the other day that the first batch of shell unleaded fuel laced with ethanol is imported from australia. the succeding batches daw will be imported from brazil

[aceshark]

Cheaper than what?

AFAIK, the regular unleaded gasoline.