E10 Ethanol, bad for your engine & economy? [MERGED]

[niky]

Hmmm... since Ford warranties its cars on any Shell fluid, maybe I'm safe... . Just loaded 500p, so it'll be a while before my gas runs out... will try it when I can.

[mazdamazda]

I've used before SeaOil's E10 fuel blend... it is a bit cheaper than regular gasoline... I didn't notice any difference also in terms of performance and fuel economy.

[Mguy]

Just called Honda and they said that e10 is compatible to their engines. Hmmm. . . might as well load tonight since i'm running on empty.

[mazdamazda]

most EFI engines will run fine on E10 blend... but anything higher than 10% might cause some problems down the line.

though AFAIK, carb engines will not run properly even on E10.

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btw... what's the octane rating of Shell's Unleaded E10? if it is 95 (like SeaOil's) then I'd reall consider this.

[ILuvDetailing]

how much is it per liter?

[Initial-"Dito"]

Guys, there is a thread here somewhere saying even just 10% blend of ethanol can cause engine damage in the long run since most engines here in Pinas isn't flexi-fuel, only the new Focus is. Can anyone verify this?

[Jayo]

Taken from http://www.faqs.org/faqs/autos/gasol...rt1/index.html

"However, on vehicles with engine management systems, the fuel volume will be increased to bring the stoichiometry back to the preferred optimum setting. Oxygen in the fuel can not contribute energy, consequently the fuel has less energy content. For the same efficiency and power output, more fuel has to be burnt, and the slight improvements in combustion efficiency that oxygenates provide on some engines usually do not completely compensate for the oxygen."

Does this mean more visits to the gas pump?

[Mamar]

*mazdamazda
how much po ba ung sa seaoil at selected lng po ba or all seaoil branches has this?

[ghosthunter]

In some online forums I have read, it was mentioned (by some users) that ethanol blended fuels actually resulted in LESS fuel milage per liter than gasoline without ethanol.

[OTEP]

Ethanol does not contain the same energy per unit volume as gasoline. So an increase in fuel consumption is considered normal. This is offset by the decrese in cost.