audio set-up for beginners [continued]

**Sleepcare** · December 20th, 2016 09:19 AM

Originally Posted by sientobente

Sony prides itself as a bassy system. From headphones, up to these HUs, it's the same. Pioneer sounds thicker and has a fuller body but sounds even on the EQ spectrum, Alpine naman sounds clinical.

Mas maganda po yung setup ni ninjababez, straight reference gears. Kaya po marami siyang chicks.

Thanks for the input boss! Akala ko kasi different yung sound sig ng Sony for their head units.

How about Kenwood boss may idea ka? Once lang kasi ako nakarinig pero hindi ko maalala yung tunog kasi hindi pa napalitan yung speakers kaya medyo madaya.

**jhnkvn** · December 22nd, 2016 06:55 PM

Originally Posted by AltisAndMZ3FAN

Thanks for your reply, does the phased out JL amp has significant difference with the new one?

Another quote given by Reo of 2MC worth 50k is:
Pioneer x2850BT
Focal 165AS
Focal Sub 25AF
RF Prime AMP

I'm actually looking for a shop that provides an option to pay on credit card (GF couldn't track if you know what i mean).

Hmm, I don't believe so. To be honest audio's "improvement" throughout the years isn't what you call leaping like in the microprocessor industry. The minimum lineup I'd recommend sa JL Audio will be their 20k-ish xD amplifier lineup using Class D topology that trickled down sa HD-series nila.

For Reo's new quote, that's more preferable and more easily resell-able.

**jhnkvn** · December 22nd, 2016 06:57 PM

Originally Posted by sientobente

Sir Mark, I'll learn this week kung may RCA out nga yung AVT HU ng Swift. I just bought the gears, di ko pa pinakakabit because of the lack of time. Sa friday ako dadaan kay SimpleSound.

AFAIK diba all AVT head units have pre-outs? Correct me if wrong but I was under that impression. 1/2 pre-outs lang ata?

**jhnkvn** · December 22nd, 2016 07:04 PM

Originally Posted by babybackrivs

Which installer do you recommend sir? I've heard about ACA, jetcar and C3, any comments on these installers? Any one of them you recommend the most/one that I should avoid? TIA!

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All of them are still reputed. Just know that every industry has its low-mid-high budget ranges. ACA and C3 is on the low while JetCar is mid-high. To be honest, there's a lot of good installers in Banawe. Sayang that Candyshop has relocated na (they're my top recommendation dati) so I'd say if I were to build a budget system today.. I'll probably head for Tim's Ryan Audio (he's the younger brother of the owner but also retails other stuff aside from Ryan Audio; he also installs sa garage) or Vince's Maspro -- both of them in Old Banawe. Sa "New" Banawe, probably I'll head to Auto Intensity. If I'm looking for a medium budget, I'd look elsewhere na or kay JetCar pwede din.

**jhnkvn** · December 22nd, 2016 07:18 PM

Re: Sony head units
To be honest they're still a rare breed in the Philippines. The launch of their RSX-GS9 is the bomb though; Juno's been raving about it non-stop. As for me, I'm not so keen to join the DSD bandwagon with a 10 minute track occupying 800MB of space. Is there a difference though? Yes there is. I tried a A/B comparison between a 16bit 44khz studio WAV file versus the DSD equivalent in a fully treated room with reference B&Ws floorstanders playing and the DSD sounded more noticeably lifelike. I'm still not willing to pony up the space difference though.

As an idea, I'm still on the 16bit/44khz 320kbps MP3/AAC file camp for 80% of my music needs.; the 20% are 16bit ALAC/FLAC files.

**markygy** · December 22nd, 2016 07:57 PM

Originally Posted by jhnkvn

AFAIK diba all AVT head units have pre-outs? Correct me if wrong but I was under that impression. 1/2 pre-outs lang ata?

I'm really hoping na meron. Not a fan of using LOC or speaker level signals either.
*boss siento, if indeed may RCA pre-out ang HU ng swift, knowing Jonz's caliber he will measure the voltage signal. If it is not to much to ask I hope you can get this information as well. Thank you in advance!

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**sientobente** · December 23rd, 2016 02:19 AM

Originally Posted by jhnkvn

Re: Sony head units
To be honest they're still a rare breed in the Philippines. The launch of their RSX-GS9 is the bomb though; Juno's been raving about it non-stop. As for me, I'm not so keen to join the DSD bandwagon with a 10 minute track occupying 800MB of space. Is there a difference though? Yes there is. I tried a A/B comparison between a 16bit 44khz studio WAV file versus the DSD equivalent in a fully treated room with reference B&Ws floorstanders playing and the DSD sounded more noticeably lifelike. I'm still not willing to pony up the space difference though.

As an idea, I'm still on the 16bit/44khz 320kbps MP3/AAC file camp for 80% of my music needs.; the 20% are 16bit ALAC/FLAC files.

Lemme guess, kay Tita Elco yan noh? I'm down with DSD. File size are still smaller than DXD.

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**sientobente** · December 23rd, 2016 02:22 AM

Originally Posted by markygy

I'm really hoping na meron. Not a fan of using LOC or speaker level signals either.
*boss siento, if indeed may RCA pre-out ang HU ng swift, knowing Jonz's caliber he will measure the voltage signal. If it is not to much to ask I hope you can get this information as well. Thank you in advance!

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Sure thing boss Mark. Same here, wouldn't like to use the highlevel outputs.

My schedule though was moved to next week, I'm busy cramming for the holidays kasi. Anyway, will let you know by then.

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**Lorrainelv** · January 10th, 2017 05:08 PM

Originally Posted by [archie]

sa wattage, its better to have a higher rated speakers than ampli. its true na you would run the risk of overdriving your speakers kung higher ang ampli sa speakers. lower the ampli na lang na gagamitin para hindi power hungry yung setup. yung akin, gamit ko 300 RMS 500 peak watt amp lang pero filing ko higher than rated kasi nasira una ko set ng seps. hehe

It's wonderful, your Analyze is so full-scale,you know so much about Car's Audio, thank you a lot guy !

**babybackrivs** · January 11th, 2017 01:38 AM

Originally Posted by jhnkvn

All of them are still reputed. Just know that every industry has its low-mid-high budget ranges. ACA and C3 is on the low while JetCar is mid-high. To be honest, there's a lot of good installers in Banawe. Sayang that Candyshop has relocated na (they're my top recommendation dati) so I'd say if I were to build a budget system today.. I'll probably head for Tim's Ryan Audio (he's the younger brother of the owner but also retails other stuff aside from Ryan Audio; he also installs sa garage) or Vince's Maspro -- both of them in Old Banawe. Sa "New" Banawe, probably I'll head to Auto Intensity. If I'm looking for a medium budget, I'd look elsewhere na or kay JetCar pwede din.

Thank you sir jhnkvn! Took a while to reply as I didnt check tsikot over the holiday.

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