audio set-up for beginners [continued]

[bugsmobile]

Sorry for the late reply. Tried disconnecting the batt, still no go. Anyway, I was reading some threads in diymobileaudio I think, and I'll try change some settings on my HU to see if I can make it pop-up.

Ok hope you can make it get to work. Or maybe the 8850 has a different software?

[sientobente]

Ok hope you can make it get to work. Or maybe the 8850 has a different software?

I think it does because this has Android Auto and Car Play. The advise from 5 Star Car Audio in youtube also didn't work by setting the smartphone to AV rather than USB. Checked if there are new firmwares available, none.

[sientobente]

Hi guys, with a budget of around 5k, what good seps can I get? I asked ACA and he suggested the nakamichi seps tapos deadening. Sa jetcar naman, DS18 black diamond. Do you have any other suggestions? TIA


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For that budget, try Auditor RIP 165, Hertz DSK 165 and the Audio System MX 165. They all sound very different though. Depends on your preference.

[jhnkvn]

Re: AltisAndMZ3FAN

Hmmm, interesting quotations you have there.

Some observations:
1. I see that Reo (2MC Audio) is leaning towards the DS18 amplifier. That's surprising as I was expecting him to push for a more well-reputed brand. This means that he's not brand-conscious of the amplifier and power... is power. His choice of amplifier, should it be the Excel line, should be the DS18 EXL A1K4.
2. Staunch, with Marbel at its helm, is predominantly ESQL/LnC focused. judging from the 6" mids and tweets, those are raw drivers. That comes as no surprise thanks to Marbel's history as he used to compete in EMMA's LnC category.
3. What interests me is Staunch's amplifier recommendation. The DS18's Candy amplifier is half the size of their Excel lineup but has more power packed in it according to its website. I feel this is impossible and DS18 has mislabeled it as a Class A/B amplifier when it's in fact a Class D amplifier.
4. Mickey's quote is classic Mickey's. What I dislike is the JL amplifier. It's probably a JL JX360/4 retailing at Php11.9k; problem is this amplifier has already been phased out being replaced by JX400/4 that utilizes JL's full-range Class D technology (of which they're one of the best in its implementation in the industry).

My opinion:
1. I'm surprised they're all in on the Morel's. I guess you can't really go wrong with entry-level Morels.
2. On the amplifier, I'm on the camp that's more power = better. I'm not a fan of DS18 -- they're no better than Chinese rebrands entering in the Philippines.
3. Then again, Chinese rebrands aren't bad at all. They dish out what's needed for the cash you pay for it. As such, go for it.
4. Among the subwoofer choices, I'm leaning on the Hertz. I love their subwoofers.
5. If I were to nitpick, I feel you're paying too much on the subwoofers. Those JL, Focal, and Hertz subwoofers are quality but they're also pricey. Personally, I'd rather save the Php2,000 difference of the Hertz and get a JBL GTO 10" subwoofer instead. Not only can you not hear the difference but the JBL is also superior in its rubber surround as seen in its excursion parameters.

[jhnkvn]

Re: babybackrivs
There's not much differentiation in the Php5,000-10,000. Reason for this is that most of them use the same cone material with a slight variation in tweeter material (which is usually a soft dome because they're cheap and even if they're budgeted still sound good). In fact, you might want to focus instead on choosing your installer.

Why? Because if the materials themselves don't really differ much. The next variable will be the installer's knowledge and experience of which will affect the sound quality by a huge margin depending on his installation. The installer should first be accustomed to his product and should know how to properly install them for it to sound the best.

[babybackrivs]

For that budget, try Auditor RIP 165, Hertz DSK 165 and the Audio System MX 165. They all sound very different though. Depends on your preference.

Thank you sir, do you know which shop sells those speakers? :D


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[babybackrivs]

Re: babybackrivs
There's not much differentiation in the Php5,000-10,000. Reason for this is that most of them use the same cone material with a slight variation in tweeter material (which is usually a soft dome because they're cheap and even if they're budgeted still sound good). In fact, you might want to focus instead on choosing your installer.

Why? Because if the materials themselves don't really differ much. The next variable will be the installer's knowledge and experience of which will affect the sound quality by a huge margin depending on his installation. The installer should first be accustomed to his product and should know how to properly install them for it to sound the best.

Which installer do you recommend sir? I've heard about ACA, jetcar and C3, any comments on these installers? Any one of them you recommend the most/one that I should avoid? TIA!


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[AltisAndMZ3FAN]

Re: AltisAndMZ3FAN

Hmmm, interesting quotations you have there.

Some observations:
1. I see that Reo (2MC Audio) is leaning towards the DS18 amplifier. That's surprising as I was expecting him to push for a more well-reputed brand. This means that he's not brand-conscious of the amplifier and power... is power. His choice of amplifier, should it be the Excel line, should be the DS18 EXL A1K4.
2. Staunch, with Marbel at its helm, is predominantly ESQL/LnC focused. judging from the 6" mids and tweets, those are raw drivers. That comes as no surprise thanks to Marbel's history as he used to compete in EMMA's LnC category.
3. What interests me is Staunch's amplifier recommendation. The DS18's Candy amplifier is half the size of their Excel lineup but has more power packed in it according to its website. I feel this is impossible and DS18 has mislabeled it as a Class A/B amplifier when it's in fact a Class D amplifier.
4. Mickey's quote is classic Mickey's. What I dislike is the JL amplifier. It's probably a JL JX360/4 retailing at Php11.9k; problem is this amplifier has already been phased out being replaced by JX400/4 that utilizes JL's full-range Class D technology (of which they're one of the best in its implementation in the industry).

My opinion:
1. I'm surprised they're all in on the Morel's. I guess you can't really go wrong with entry-level Morels.
2. On the amplifier, I'm on the camp that's more power = better. I'm not a fan of DS18 -- they're no better than Chinese rebrands entering in the Philippines.
3. Then again, Chinese rebrands aren't bad at all. They dish out what's needed for the cash you pay for it. As such, go for it.
4. Among the subwoofer choices, I'm leaning on the Hertz. I love their subwoofers.
5. If I were to nitpick, I feel you're paying too much on the subwoofers. Those JL, Focal, and Hertz subwoofers are quality but they're also pricey. Personally, I'd rather save the Php2,000 difference of the Hertz and get a JBL GTO 10" subwoofer instead. Not only can you not hear the difference but the JBL is also superior in its rubber surround as seen in its excursion parameters.

Thanks for your reply, does the phased out JL amp has significant difference with the new one?

Another quote given by Reo of 2MC worth 50k is:
Pioneer x2850BT
Focal 165AS
Focal Sub 25AF
RF Prime AMP

I'm actually looking for a shop that provides an option to pay on credit card (GF couldn't track if you know what i mean).

[sientobente]

Thank you sir, do you know which shop sells those speakers? :D


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Auditor and Audio System/Gladen/Mosconi are from the same distributor. So any shop that sells Focal can also source these. For Hertz, Simplesound or Mickeys.

[sientobente]

Anyway, did some car audio shopping this xmas.

Replaced the stock HU on my Altis with a Sony XAV-650BT because it does not read Android phones or Spotify.


Got an amp(Gladen M95.4) and sub(Hertz ES250.5) for my Swift.



Now I just need to find time to visit my installer to get these babies running.