Mitsubishi Montero Sudden Acceleration Accidents [MERGED]

[Monseratto]

Pero kung human error yan ang damit engot haha
Yan masasabi ko.
Balik tayo sa fact na PH models lang ano yun sinabotahe tayo? Haha

Many Filipino drivers are manual drivers. Only in the late 90s that AT made in road into the local market and lately became very affordable...

DTI should also reveal if there are other cars that have complaints regarding SUA...

[ClaNker]

Pag sa US to eh matinding lawsuit na to. Iba sa pinas, tapos mag dedemand ng lemon law.

Pinoy nga naman, parang mga gago lang.

[Rhyderz]

Spot on Vernon!

http://www.topgear.com.ph/news/motor...d-acceleration


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from my point of view:

Topgear really put up a good statement. Common sense nga naman, sa 'Pinas lang? Actually madaming paraan para labanan o maiwasan ang kini-claim nilang SUA. Pwede mo naman sigurong apakan ang brake pag feeling mo na-suSUA ka na noh? or handbrakes..or better yet, kayang-kaya mo naman sigurong ilagay s Neutral without pressing the brakes. or kung meron kang tinatawag na presence of mind, "ignition off."

I think more on psychological aspect na lang talaga ang claimed SUA ng Montero. Doon na lang isisi ang driver error. From park to drive eh talaga namang aandar sasakyan ntin lalo na pag nsa flat plane or descending position. Please be reminded na mabigat ang minamahal nating sasakyan. Pati Manibela eh medyo nakakamuscle dahil sa lapad ng gulong.

I owned Montero 2015 glx A/T model, narinig ko na yang SUA na yan prior to buying it. Di naman ako nadiscourage, first car ko pa nga to in fact! Let's not go into claiming me SUA ang montero natin. Bagkus, pwede nating i-debunked ang myth na yan. Remember, tayo at hindi sila ang nakasakay sa sasakyan natin. Hindi naman sa pinagtatanggol natin ang Mitsu pero di rin masama na ayusin ang pagmamaneho.

[kisshmet]

Taka nga ako pano nating naging VP yun. Lol

probably because of glorys connection with garci then

[car_fan]

That's the sad part. Our Govt system is not mature enough to handle such cases. We as a country for that matter, is not mature enough. That is why we are called "third world". Kasalanan ni Gloria at PNoy! 😁

[CVT]

Etong isang to nakatigil na nag inusok pa.

In the first video of the white Montero, I did not notice that any of the three brake lights turned on.... When he was backing up and when put the ride on drive and surged forward.....Has anyone seen otherwise?

Profound....

I personally knew of a similar incident,- this time with an office colleague in a Jazz... In a parking lot,- Reverse wham; almost immediately, forward wham... Very unfortunate...

[iceblueyes]

Meron talagang tao na hindi nakaka intindi ata ng safety....

Safety should always comes first...

No amount of experienced nor talent should overcome safety....

Hindi purkit magaling na AKO sumingit sa kalsada eh puro singit na ang Gagawin Ko...
Hindi purkit magaling ako mag drive, eh kas kas dito kas kas dun...
Hindi purkit-- NASA subd. Ka Lang, mabagal Lang naman ang takbo mo, hindi ka na mag seatbelt...
Hindi purkit-- magaling ka matalino-- may technique, eh gagamitin mo na ang left foot mo for braking...

Magaling ba yan o mayabang?

Ganun Lang ka simple Lang yan...

Madami talagang tao-- ang magagaling at Sobrang talino--

Akala nila magaling sila--- Pero paano naging magaling ang Isang tao kung--- if they are the one's who also endanger the lives of fellow motorist...

Why not drive SAFELY?

magaling ba o mayabang ang tawag dun?

Cite me the studies you all seem to know of which shows that the technique I normally use is "more dangerous" for someone like me.
Give me the figures, which show that people who used this technique as norm, are involved in more accidents. <- Maybe a moot point since you can also see the figures of people who are involved in the same types accidents who drive in your/normal way.

AGAIN, the normality of using the technique for that person is key here, I am not asking YOU, who is unable to do it, to use the technique. That is dangerous for YOU and everyone around, that I can agree on.

PM mo na lang if you don't want to derail the topic. Or leave it here to educate everyone idc.

*car fan

Don't bother na, I recant my previous statement. The inability accept a difference in opinion, the subtle(or not) shaming, repetitive arguments w/o factual/logical backing. its borderline and childish, the irony is not lost to me


At topic

My reason for my skepticism I do not know, or know anyone, who has either 1st hand experience OR know anyone else on a sensible degree to which it happened to.

Does that invalidate the claims? of course not.

What does it for me is the eerily similar statements made by the victims circulating social media, eerily similar in a way that iba yung sasakyan sa pic iba yung driver pero yung sinabi niya parang copy paste lang ng na una; PLUS the fact that its isolated in one particular model on our particular country.

Does that invalidate the claims? again, no. But to convince me otherwise there must be more information about this other than the statements made by the victims.

I am not saying that it is definitely driver error but I am not accepting that it is definitely defects.

[Stigg ma]

hindi po ako may sabi nun sir, si hyundai balintawak ang nagsabi at nagdiagnose nun, una iniinsist ng pinsan ko sa brakelight switch, pero nung ginawa nila hindi daw sa switch yun reset lang daw ecu ginawa nila, since umayos nman at wala naman na pinalitan na piyesa, malamang totoo sinabi ng SA. nagbayad lang sya para sa pagreset, di ko na matandaan kung magkano pero less than 1k lang.

yong may brake mitigation system lang ang dumadaan sa ECU, the rest is plain old hydraulic system with brake light switch sa pedal...

clearly sa cctv kita na hindi umilaw ang 1st, 2nd and even the 3rd brake light... meaning hindi umapak ng brake yong driver... not unless busted lahat ng brake light nito or a faulty brake light switch due to some reasons (like flooded unit or poorly maintained lang yong tsikot), ang labas, driver error due to irresponsible to check the brake light once in awhile...

tsaka bakit ganun nung umatras siya at nabungo nya yong likod, diba ang 1st reaction mo nun eh to step on the brake pedal and see the damage? baket umabante pa? nilagay ba sa Drive from Reverse with HIGH RPM yong tranny? or sa impact ng pag atras eh lumipat kusa yong lever from reverse to neutral to drive? why? baka nag kamali talaga siya ng apak sa pedal kase kabado na siya at naka banga siya?

hindi gumana ang airbag due to di niya na abot ang min speed to deploy it for safety reasons, ang ikli kase ng space para ma reach niya yong min speed...

kung sa MT yan, im sure ang 1st reaction is umapak ng clutch (and go neutral) para ma cut ang power sa tranny... kaya siguro sabi ng iba dapat matuto muna mag MT bago mag AT

[car_fan]

In the first video of the white Montero, I did not notice that any of the three brake lights turned on.... When he was backing up and when put the ride on drive and surged forward.....Has anyone seen otherwise?



Profound....

That's true. That is why it's hard to prove SUA, because there will definitely be cases of driver error. So the best thing for Mitsu to do is to provide concrete evidence of just one SUA claim as a farce. Rather than just outright saying that all these cases are driver error without providing any proof. This video can be a starting point fir them.

[iceblueyes]

In the first video of the white Montero, I did not notice that any of the three brake lights turned on.... When he was backing up and when put the ride on drive and surged forward.....Has anyone seen otherwise?

Profound....

Also noticed that but I can accept that something may be up with the electronics handling it.
What I am trying to find is why/how did it go to Drive from Reverse. Cause what I normally expect when that happens is you would just try your best to just stop it, brake, turn off the engine, hand brake etc... And you can see when it first hit at the back it kinda stopped then bigla na lang nag forward.

So was it the driver or was the stick still in reverse and it just went forward?

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In the first video of the white Montero, I did not notice that any of the three brake lights turned on.... When he was backing up and when put the ride on drive and surged forward.....Has anyone seen otherwise?

Profound....

Also noticed that but I can accept that something may be up with the electronics handling it.
What I am trying to find is why/how did it go to Drive from Reverse. Cause what I normally expect when that happens is you would just try your best to just stop it, brake, turn off the engine, hand brake etc... And you can see when it first hit at the back it kinda stopped then bigla na lang nag forward.

So was it the driver or was the stick still in reverse and it just went forward?