Mitsubishi Montero Sudden Acceleration Accidents [MERGED]

[Ry_Tower]

yung iba dito kung maka-husga ng BOBO, TANGA, AT ENGOT sa mga driver ng mga SUA victims dito kala mo kegagaling at mga expert, palibhasa babagsak nanaman RESALE value ng mga mitsubishi car nila lalo na montero. natrauma na nga lalo pa tinatapakan, 97 cases at puro montero lang ang reported na sasakyan, nakakatakot pala bumili ng montero at nakaka-bob0, tanga at engot pala tong sasakyan na to. tulungan nyo na lang malaman ang totoo at wag na magsalita ng di maganda.

Sino po ba sinasabi mo na nagsabi nang Bobo, Tanga at Engot mga MS owners na na-SUA kuno?

[car_fan]

Driver error or not. Nakakapagtaka lang na sa halos same quantity of monteros and fortuners on the street...how come sa montero lang may mas maraming cases na ganito? What is with the profile of montero buyers that differentiates them with Fortuner buyers? People, media, and fanatics, and of course the manufacturer are quick to dismiss the case...obviously due to the love for the product.



Imposible ba ang SUA = NO (based on our first hand experience on a different brand. 2 different brands actually)

Impossible ba ang SUA sa Montero = NO what makes this brand special versus lets say a Toyota? In fact bakit sila ang may maraming SUA cases?

Kaya it is prudent not to dismiss this case outright without an independent party examining how mitsu tested the first reported SUAs. Or better yet, if experts like us in tsikot 😁 are given access to their firmware's source code and complete mechanical diagram. Kung walang makita, then well and good!

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[Ry_Tower]

Driver error or not. Nakakapagtaka lang na sa halos same quantity of monteros and fortuners on the street...how come sa montero lang may mas maraming cases na ganito? What is with the profile of montero buyers that differentiates them with Fortuner buyers? People, media, and fanatics, and of course the manufacturer are quick to dismiss the case...obviously due to the love for the product.

Imposible ba ang SUA = NO (based on our first hand experience on a different brand. 2 different brands actually)
Impossible ba ang SUA sa Montero = NO what makes this brand special versus lets say a Toyota? In fact bakit sila ang may maraming SUA cases?

Kaso nga bro kahit hindi impossible, ang tanong eh may naka-prove ba? Hindi ba na sinasabi nang batas na a person (MMC is a legal entity) is innocent until proven guilty.

Again obvious naman problem eh, yung early model nang MS ay walang brake switch system na kung saan puwede mo i-shift from P to D or R without stepping on the brakes. Pero hindi SUA yan. Yan tingin ko dapat focus nang argument ng mga naaksidente. Dyan may pag-asa sila makakuha hustisya.

Pero again, tignan din nila manual nila. If nakalagay dun na they should depress the brake first before shifting through gears. Lusot pa din MMC. Bakit? Eh nasa instuction kasi eh na read the manual first before driving. So bagsak nun, sasabihin nang MMC na may neglect on the part of the driver. Just like nung white MS driver sa video.

Hopefully a lawyer can enlighten us on this since limited lang alam ko sa batas.

To summarize my point here, possible SUA pero in the case of early MS eh hindi SUA yan imho. The standard safety of brake lever switch was missing and probably the cause of these accidents. Yan ang madali ma-prove para nga may justice naman if ever sa mga na-aggrabiyado.

BTW i have no car brand loyalty. Just car model loyalty. hehe. I'd buy a 2nd hand Pajero BK or an MuX is I have the funds right now. Ipa-leather ko lang dashboard nang MuX 3.0 4x4 oks na ako.

[glenn_duke]

Is it true that in certain situations, pinapakialamanan ni ecm ang brakes to activate abs, ebd and stability control? ��

ABS-EBD only activates at high speed. The ECM aided by the speed sensor only controls the pulse of the ABS but not the right foot of the driver.
In my experience sa Montero, pag nag fail ang ABS nag la lock ang brakes even at low speed. One or two wheels will skid.

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Is it true that in certain situations, pinapakialamanan ni ecm ang brakes to activate abs, ebd and stability control? 😈

ABS-EBD only activates at high speed. The ECM aided by the speed sensor only controls the pulse of the ABS but not the right foot of the driver.
In my experience sa Montero, pag nag fail ang ABS nag la lock ang brakes even at low speed. One or two wheels will skid.

[rene_tagle]

Sino po ba sinasabi mo na nagsabi nang Bobo, Tanga at Engot mga MS owners na na-SUA kuno?

mag backread ka meron ka mbabasa. pati style ng pagda-drive ng left foot ginagamit sa brake pinupuna, pati hindi dumaan daw sa manual pinupuna din. kanya kanyang style lang yan kung san sila comportable.

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Sino po ba sinasabi mo na nagsabi nang Bobo, Tanga at Engot mga MS owners na na-SUA kuno?

mag backread ka meron ka mbabasa. pati style ng pagda-drive ng left foot ginagamit sa brake pinupuna, pati hindi dumaan daw sa manual pinupuna din. kanya kanyang style lang yan kung san sila comportable.

[rene_tagle]

wrong post sorry

[rene_tagle]

Ibig mobang sabihin na ang brake system ng Starex ay brake by wire na?
Nag upgrade ako ng brake lights ng Starex ko from single point to double dual point contacts, very straightforward yung ginawa ng installer, walang binutinting sa ECU.
The only time na hindi umiilaw yung brake lights ko is when it is busted.

eto siguro yung ginawa ng hyundai balintawak, basahin mo yung tips.

How to Fix a Stuck Brake Light: 8 Steps (with Pictures) - wikiHow

[rene_tagle]

You are right sir. Natawa ako dun ah. Napansin ko lang sa mga dealer, kung wala ka alam sa sasakyan kung ano ano lang sasabihin sayo ng mga sales advisor sa CASA para makapag dahilan sila. Maybe yung wire is grounded. ECU basically controls engine. Yung mga ilaw sir mechanical na yan. All of them has switch and hindi si ECU nagdedecide nyan to turn it on or off, yung driver itself. Hehe. Balik na tayo mga ka-SUHA sa montero.

basahin mo yung link bago ka magsabi ng walang alam. thanks.

[oj88]

ABS-EBD only activates at high speed. The ECM aided by the speed sensor only controls the pulse of the ABS but not the right foot of the driver.
In my experience sa Montero, pag nag fail ang ABS nag la lock ang brakes even at low speed. One or two wheels will skid.

In all the cars I've driven that has ABS, the feature activates at all speeds for as long as it detects a locked wheel. So sudden braking on uneven roads even at low speeds will usually trigger it.

[JohnM]

In all the cars I've driven that has ABS, the feature activates at all speeds for as long as it detects a locked wheel. So sudden braking on uneven roads even at low speeds will usually trigger it.

Please read your manual. Most ABS systems activate above 10 kph IIRC. The activation is noticeable because there is a light clunk coming from the engine compartment when you reach a certain speed and it is more evident on cold starts. I noticed this sound on a Mirage, a Vios and a 3. It might not be noticeable through the clatter of a diesel engine though.