audio set-up for beginners [continued]

**xymon21** · November 11th, 2013 01:32 AM

Thank you for giving me some enlightenment.

I decided to go to Loud and Clear instead of SQ after hearing some samples to some shops. I tried looking for reviews about Dominations RS 6.2 but unable to get one in the site. Anything that you can recommend for Loud and Clear Speakers? I also decided to change my HU as well. Here are the initial specification:

Dominations RS 6.2
Dominations ES 4-channels
Alpine W520E Head Unit
Alpine H100 processor

If there are any speakers that you can recommend, please let me know.

**jhnkvn** · November 11th, 2013 12:53 PM

For loud and clear, it's more of a matter on how far are you willing to spend.

For those with a smaller budget, I simply suggest your typical car audio speakers and just get more of them. The analogy of this is simple: one speaker is loud, two speakers will be louder.

I do not recommend you spend more than 10k for your typical speaker set in a loud and clear setup. It's better to simply get cheaper ones (if you're going for Dominations, go for the 5,000php Buddy speakers) and just get more of them. This is because getting "better" ones aren't efficient in tackling your problem -- you're limited by speaker design and mechanical engineering rather than inferior materials.

Now, for those with more Php1000 bills in their wallets, your route to go is to use pro-audio drivers. These are the speaker drivers behind your everyday P.A. systems and concert speakers. These are different from your typical speaker sets is because they're optimized to go very loud on the downside of limited audio bandwidth.. This is why those who use these usually go 3-way (a dedicated tweeter, midrange, midbass) and a subwoofer for the sub-bass. Examples of brands such as these is Spain's Beyma.

**nori** · November 12th, 2013 09:09 PM

good evening. plano ko iupgrade yung audio setup nung fx namin, it has four speakers, i think they're 6 inches (2 on front doors, 2 at the back of the jumpseats(?)) and a unknown brand for the HU and thin wirings. gusto ko sana step-by-step upgrade starting with the wirings and HU. i also want to add two speakers (2 to be mounted at the passenger doors). im not really keen with having tweeters at the dashboard though.

eto target sequence ko:

1. upgrade HU to deh2450ub or similar, just a good brand HU with ample connectivity like USB, AUX, iPod, CD; SD card is a bonus nalang. plus sabay na yung installation ng antenna (stock is broken) and wirings kasi nagpapalya na yung sa driver side door. magpalagay na rin ng standby wiring sa rear passenger doors for the speaker upgrade.

2. install sound deadening on the flooring, doors and ceiling <-is this necessary?

3. upgrade the speakers.

tama ba yung sequence? and magkano kaya mga sir ang ilalaan kong budget for this project? i just want clear music playing in the background, no fancy eardrum-blasting bass with the windows down. lol

also, head units can only accomodate four speakers right? or am i wrong? lol

addendum: ill have this DIY. but first i need to know if tama yung gagawin kong sequence, and yung gauge ng wires. hehe

**jhnkvn** · November 12th, 2013 11:26 PM

Originally Posted by nori

good evening. plano ko iupgrade yung audio setup nung fx namin, it has four speakers, i think they're 6 inches (2 on front doors, 2 at the back of the jumpseats(?)) and a unknown brand for the HU and thin wirings. gusto ko sana step-by-step upgrade starting with the wirings and HU. i also want to add two speakers (2 to be mounted at the passenger doors). im not really keen with having tweeters at the dashboard though.

eto target sequence ko:

1. upgrade HU to deh2450ub or similar, just a good brand HU with ample connectivity like USB, AUX, iPod, CD; SD card is a bonus nalang. plus sabay na yung installation ng antenna (stock is broken) and wirings kasi nagpapalya na yung sa driver side door. magpalagay na rin ng standby wiring sa rear passenger doors for the speaker upgrade.

2. install sound deadening on the flooring, doors and ceiling <-is this necessary?

3. upgrade the speakers.

tama ba yung sequence? and magkano kaya mga sir ang ilalaan kong budget for this project? i just want clear music playing in the background, no fancy eardrum-blasting bass with the windows down. lol

also, head units can only accomodate four speakers right? or am i wrong? lol

addendum: ill have this DIY. but first i need to know if tama yung gagawin kong sequence, and yung gauge ng wires. hehe

1. Sound deadening is simply optional as it's expensive for budget setups. If ever you want to, just deaden the doors where you'll be putting the speakers.

2. How many "speakers" can a head unit accomodate depends on their speaker-level and pre-out connections.

3. As for the gauge, you just try to get the the thickest that's sanely possible. I would suggest a 13AWG speaker wire gauge para wala ka na problema.. but 16AWG would do.

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And just do it this way:

1. Buy a head unit which you can use its functions (if you don't use Bluetooth, it's kinda useless to purchase a BT capable one right?)
2. Change speakers
3. See if satisfied..
4. Proceed with more upgrades.

**garygallardo** · November 13th, 2013 12:00 AM

Sir mura na ba itong setup na ito, sa Montero ko ikakabit.

Headunit: Stock AVT
Amplifier: Ads 650.4
Separates: Teac-CS6
Sub: 6.5 in Lightning Lab
AVT RCA Audio Plug
Deadening 4 doors
Wires and Labor
Package : 14k
SQ lang

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**jhnkvn** · November 13th, 2013 01:16 AM

I'm not updated with the prices.

**uno0308** · November 13th, 2013 09:46 PM

Originally Posted by garygallardo

Sir mura na ba itong setup na ito, sa Montero ko ikakabit.

Headunit: Stock AVT
Amplifier: Ads 650.4
Separates: Teac-CS6
Sub: 6.5 in Lightning Lab
AVT RCA Audio Plug
Deadening 4 doors
Wires and Labor
Package : 14k
SQ lang

Sent from my Lenovo P770 using Tapatalk 2

parang may ganitong post si jeff tan (ACA) sa facebook. try to check him out.

**nori** · November 14th, 2013 12:28 AM

Originally Posted by jhnkvn

1. Sound deadening is simply optional as it's expensive for budget setups. If ever you want to, just deaden the doors where you'll be putting the speakers.

2. How many "speakers" can a head unit accomodate depends on their speaker-level and pre-out connections.

3. As for the gauge, you just try to get the the thickest that's sanely possible. I would suggest a 13AWG speaker wire gauge para wala ka na problema.. but 16AWG would do.

---

And just do it this way:

1. Buy a head unit which you can use its functions (if you don't use Bluetooth, it's kinda useless to purchase a BT capable one right?)
2. Change speakers
3. See if satisfied..
4. Proceed with more upgrades.

thanks sir. will scout for 16AWG muna.

and yes, i only plan to purchase a head unit with CD, AUX, and USB (+iPod) functionality. Bluetooth is useless to me. apparently my target HU can accommodate only four speakers. ill change speakers later on.

my purpose sa deadening is to reduce outside noise sana, considering this is an old vehicle and door shell is lawanit only.

**jhnkvn** · November 14th, 2013 02:43 AM

Originally Posted by nori

thanks sir. will scout for 16AWG muna.

and yes, i only plan to purchase a head unit with CD, AUX, and USB (+iPod) functionality. Bluetooth is useless to me. apparently my target HU can accommodate only four speakers. ill change speakers later on.

my purpose sa deadening is to reduce outside noise sana, considering this is an old vehicle and door shell is lawanit only.

If then so, deadening will yield won't give you what you're primarily expecting. This is because sound insulation is only a secondary function of the buyl or asphalt MLV sheets you can buy in car audio shops. Their primary purpose is to add mass to a car in order to lower the resonant frequency of the panel. It's like hitting a metal with a stick... it's go TINNGGG.. but if you add mass like your hand, it'll dampen the sound.