audio set-up for beginners [continued]

**crazy_boy** · November 6th, 2013 10:44 AM

Originally Posted by jhnkvn

Then you'll be looking at 4" separates or coaxials. They're more rare though as standard diameter nowadays are 6.5-inches.

for 4", when i inquired last time, meron Pioneer 1014 and JBL GT5. also looking for an upgrade for my Jimny and dont want to make new holes.

price is 1,200 for the Pioneer and 1,400 for the JBL.

**ben_david19** · November 6th, 2013 11:11 AM

for a 4" coaxial speakers, marami naman mahahanap.

but for component speakers (seps), ang nakita ko lang na brands ay DLS and Ground Zero. and yes medyo pricey siya. I currently use DLS C4 for my ride. 4" seps. para lang wala nang fabrication na gawin since yun lang kakasya sa side doors ko.

**docgorio** · November 6th, 2013 01:44 PM

Originally Posted by jhnkvn

Then you'll be looking at 4" separates or coaxials. They're more rare though as standard diameter nowadays are 6.5-inches.

Thanks for the quick reply... An installer's suggesting DLS separates front and another brand aft.... I can live with the tweeters sticking out a bit on both sides of the dash......

What about the head unit?

**jhnkvn** · November 6th, 2013 02:25 PM

Originally Posted by docgorio

Thanks for the quick reply... An installer's suggesting DLS separates front and another brand aft.... I can live with the tweeters sticking out a bit on both sides of the dash......

What about the head unit?

All of them are in 1DIN and 2DIN formats naman. Choose whatever fits your need.

**xymon21** · November 7th, 2013 06:18 PM

I need help in setting up my Hyundai Santa Fe 2012..

I have 60K Budget for sound setup for Seps, Amps, Deadening and Fabrication and I want it to be SQ setup. Meron na po akong 2 12" Rockford Subs (bought it from a friend. Somebody gave me an idea that DLS seps are good for SQ. Pinagiisipan ko po ung Amps (Mono and 4-ch) kung ano maganda. My question is, anong brand po ang magandang bilhin for Amps for SQ and san po magandang magpafabricate ng lalagyanan ng seps para sa Door? Gusto ko lang po kc na nakaharap ung tweets sa driver and passenger but I don't want it placed sa harap ng kotse. I hope you can help me on this.

**jhnkvn** · November 7th, 2013 09:24 PM

Originally Posted by xymon21

I need help in setting up my Hyundai Santa Fe 2012..

I have 60K Budget for sound setup for Seps, Amps, Deadening and Fabrication and I want it to be SQ setup. Meron na po akong 2 12" Rockford Subs (bought it from a friend. Somebody gave me an idea that DLS seps are good for SQ. Pinagiisipan ko po ung Amps (Mono and 4-ch) kung ano maganda. My question is, anong brand po ang magandang bilhin for Amps for SQ and san po magandang magpafabricate ng lalagyanan ng seps para sa Door? Gusto ko lang po kc na nakaharap ung tweets sa driver and passenger but I don't want it placed sa harap ng kotse. I hope you can help me on this.

Impossible for you to be truly "SQ" without the use of digital signal processing (DSP) found in aftermarket head units or processors. In both cases, they'll cost anywhere from 25% - 50% of your budget (dashkit included for those who'll be switching head units).

You can buy expensive speakers but you'll still fail in the SQ quality if you don't control your environment.

**xymon21** · November 7th, 2013 10:10 PM

Thank you for your input. I just want to know if DSP like JBL MS-8 MS Series Digital Processor can be install in a stock head unit? Ayaw ko lang kasi mawala ung HU because of the GPS Feature. I just want to have a decent setup na hindi matinis ung tweets and at the same time malinaw ung boses ng kumakanta.

**jhnkvn** · November 8th, 2013 12:49 AM

Originally Posted by xymon21

Thank you for your input. I just want to know if DSP like JBL MS-8 MS Series Digital Processor can be install in a stock head unit? Ayaw ko lang kasi mawala ung HU because of the GPS Feature. I just want to have a decent setup na hindi matinis ung tweets and at the same time malinaw ung boses ng kumakanta.

There's a lot of considerations to be made actually. But one of the most important is do you have an external amplifier (mostly in more upscale cars) since that'll complicate your setup a lot.

But yes, a DSP such as the MS-8 can be installed. However although it's advertised as plug-and-play, I wouldn't really recommend purchasing one and having shops install them here. Okay pa sana if you're a bit of DIY inclined or have a friend who's experienced into car audio, but if not.. go for the usual DSPs which are manually adjustable. These are the likes of Audison BitTen, Mosconi 4to6, etc. and would cost you around 20k. Right now, those two are the better "budget" DSP processors out there that's pretty popular with installers.

There are cheaper ones.. but I wouldn't recommend them for non-DIY people. These are the likes of MiniDSP kits which you'll have to import pa from Hong Kong.

**xymon21** · November 8th, 2013 02:16 AM

Originally Posted by jhnkvn

There's a lot of considerations to be made actually. But one of the most important is do you have an external amplifier (mostly in more upscale cars) since that'll complicate your setup a lot.

But yes, a DSP such as the MS-8 can be installed. However although it's advertised as plug-and-play, I wouldn't really recommend purchasing one and having shops install them here. Okay pa sana if you're a bit of DIY inclined or have a friend who's experienced into car audio, but if not.. go for the usual DSPs which are manually adjustable. These are the likes of Audison BitTen, Mosconi 4to6, etc. and would cost you around 20k. Right now, those two are the better "budget" DSP processors out there that's pretty popular with installers.

There are cheaper ones.. but I wouldn't recommend them for non-DIY people. These are the likes of MiniDSP kits which you'll have to import pa from Hong Kong.

Originally Posted by jhnkvn

There's a lot of considerations to be made actually. But one of the most important is do you have an external amplifier (mostly in more upscale cars) since that'll complicate your setup a lot.

But yes, a DSP such as the MS-8 can be installed. However although it's advertised as plug-and-play, I wouldn't really recommend purchasing one and having shops install them here. Okay pa sana if you're a bit of DIY inclined or have a friend who's experienced into car audio, but if not.. go for the usual DSPs which are manually adjustable. These are the likes of Audison BitTen, Mosconi 4to6, etc. and would cost you around 20k. Right now, those two are the better "budget" DSP processors out there that's pretty popular with installers.

There are cheaper ones.. but I wouldn't recommend them for non-DIY people. These are the likes of MiniDSP kits which you'll have to import pa from Hong Kong.

I am planning to buy external amplifier - Mono for Subs and 4-ch for Seps (I'm not sure if this is what you are talking about...just a newbie). If I buy those, do I still need DSP since those will modulate the sounds. Here is the list that I am planning to buy:

Seps: DLS R6N - P13,000
Mono Amp: JBL GTO14001 (Mono) - 16K
4-Ch Amp: Sound Magus C90 - around 7K I think
Deadening Sheets - no sure on the budget but I want it install on 4-doors
Fabrication - 6K - Lalagyanan ng seps sa side ng pintuan (align with the side mirror)
Already have a 2 12" subs with box with me with bass control

I am planning to do this with Mach2Audio or Mickeys para sure quality.

Let me know if those will suffice somewhat SQ type of setup... Gusto ko lang magdrive ng maganda ang tunog ng kotse para kahit trapik di nakakabagot hehehe...

**jhnkvn** · November 8th, 2013 03:20 AM

Originally Posted by xymon21

I am planning to buy external amplifier - Mono for Subs and 4-ch for Seps (I'm not sure if this is what you are talking about...just a newbie). If I buy those, do I still need DSP since those will modulate the sounds. Here is the list that I am planning to buy:

Seps: DLS R6N - P13,000
Mono Amp: JBL GTO14001 (Mono) - 16K
4-Ch Amp: Sound Magus C90 - around 7K I think
Deadening Sheets - no sure on the budget but I want it install on 4-doors
Fabrication - 6K - Lalagyanan ng seps sa side ng pintuan (align with the side mirror)
Already have a 2 12" subs with box with me with bass control

I am planning to do this with Mach2Audio or Mickeys para sure quality.

Let me know if those will suffice somewhat SQ type of setup... Gusto ko lang magdrive ng maganda ang tunog ng kotse para kahit trapik di nakakabagot hehehe...

The only thing an amplifier will do is amplify the signal. Unless you're using an amplifier with built-in DSP (like Zapco's DSP lines) then yes, you will need a DSP. Also, I'm not getting the fabrication part -- sides ng pintuan? All cars have stock speaker mounting locations naman.

I suggest you first go to your installer and ask them for their options with regards to your goals and budgets. This is because they can more accurately asses your needs. I wouldn't underestimate the "hidden" costs of fabrication, woodworks (if you plan to), and wiring.