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    Quote Originally Posted by uls View Post
    my issue is western white men have run the world long enough

    i'd like to see eastern powers rise

    non-white... powers like India

    even Africa (Wakanda forever)
    That’s what I said. So to confirm - your issue is the race of the powers-that-be, not the atrocities that they commit. Did I get that right?

    If India invades Bangladesh, if Russia invades Ukraine, if China wipes out the Uyghurs - kebs lang; hindi naman kasi West yung gumawa.


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    China should have share their forex reserves sa mga tao nila if ganyan ka laki… ive read labor law nila is hindi pabor sa mga employees…


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    Quote Originally Posted by jut703 View Post
    That’s what I said. So to confirm - your issue is the race of the powers-that-be, not the atrocities that they commit. Did I get that right?

    If India invades Bangladesh, if Russia invades Ukraine, if China wipes out the Uyghurs - kebs lang; hindi naman kasi West yung gumawa.


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    the americans/british/europeans have no moral authority to condemn the invasion of a sovereign country when they themselves invaded sovereign countries relatively recently (2001 afghanistan, 2003 Iraq, 78-day NATO bombing of Yugoslavia in 1999 etc)

    so if "India invades Bangladesh, if Russia invades Ukraine, if China wipes out the Uyghurs" the West has no right to scold the aggressors

    coz it screams hypocrisy / double standard

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    Quote Originally Posted by uls View Post
    the americans/british/europeans have no moral authority to condemn the invasion of a sovereign country when they themselves invaded sovereign countries relatively recently (2001 afghanistan, 2003 Iraq, 78-day NATO bombing of Yugoslavia in 1999 etc)

    so if "India invades Bangladesh, if Russia invades Ukraine, if China wipes out the Uyghurs" the West has no right to scold the aggressors

    coz it screams hypocrisy / double standard


    France bombing Libya and deposing Gaddafi, then they are after the oil contracts in Libya.

    Why is there an American base in Syria when they are not invited by the Syrian Government? Why are they occupying Syrian oil fields?

    The British did not return Sabah to the Sultan of Sulu because they also discovered oil there.

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    Quote Originally Posted by uls View Post
    the americans/british/europeans have no moral authority to condemn the invasion of a sovereign country when they themselves invaded sovereign countries relatively recently (2001 afghanistan, 2003 Iraq, 78-day NATO bombing of Yugoslavia in 1999 etc)

    so if "India invades Bangladesh, if Russia invades Ukraine, if China wipes out the Uyghurs" the West has no right to scold the aggressors

    coz it screams hypocrisy / double standard
    So again, reframing the question - noone should call out when Russia or whoever new superpower commits atrocities, since everyone calling out has had some sin in the past?

    If I follow your logic, then the US shouldn’t have stopped Hitler since even then the Americans were already murderers of the natives and the Brits shouldn’t have intervened since they were imperialists themselves.

    We should’ve just let Hitler murder all the jews since noone has the moral ascendancy to call him out since all other powerful nations had skeletons in their closet too.

    Again, I maintain my position that two wrongs don’t make a right. In this case - call out Russia for invading Ukraine, but also call out the US for the shady crap they pulled in the Middle East.


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    Quote Originally Posted by Athrunzala View Post
    France bombing Libya and deposing Gaddafi, then they are after the oil contracts in Libya.

    Why is there an American base in Syria when they are not invited by the Syrian Government? Why are they occupying Syrian oil fields?

    The British did not return Sabah to the Sultan of Sulu because they also discovered oil there.
    Israel condemning Russia's invasion of Ukraine when Israel is occupying Palestinian land


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    Quote Originally Posted by uls View Post
    Israel condemning Russia's invasion of Ukraine when Israel is occupying Palestinian land

    Israel has a trade deal with Russia. One of the reasons why Israel is not selling arms to Ukraine.


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    Quote Originally Posted by uls View Post
    Israel condemning Russia's invasion of Ukraine when Israel is occupying Palestinian land


    Israel is also squatting on the Golan Heights, a territory of Syria

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    Quote Originally Posted by Athrunzala View Post
    Israel is also squatting on the Golan Heights, a territory of Syria
    but in the eyes of the West (and western-centric people around the world), Israel has the right to be there

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