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June 2nd, 2012 11:02 AM #1012
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June 2nd, 2012 11:06 AM #1013
btw, i'm the the only one who thinks $100 oil is the right price
article date: May 16, 2012
Saudis, soaring costs may keep oil above $100 | Reuters
(Reuters) - Oil industry executives and bankers are assuming oil prices will stay above $100 a barrel in the year ahead, despite mounting economic worries, as any fall below that level would trigger a cut in Saudi Arabia's output and force closures at high-cost projects around the world."The marginal cost of production is the ultimate floor in the oil market. In the North Sea it can be $80 to $100 dollars," said Andrew Moorfield from Scotiabank.
"But the real marginal cost of production also includes social costs that some big oil producers need to pay. When you add social costs in Russia and Saudi Arabia, it means that the effective floor on Brent is around $100 a barrel," he said.
and yeah... i mentioned President Putin won't be happyLast edited by uls; June 2nd, 2012 at 11:08 AM.
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June 2nd, 2012 11:10 AM #1014
Whether the cost-profit ratio stays favorable will depend on tax incentives... the current "green" movement is looking to impose more restrictions on tar sand oil extraction.
Used to be non-economical... but given the huge upfront and now social cost of oil in the Middle East, it's becoming an attractive alternative.
Ang pagbalik ng comeback...
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June 2nd, 2012 11:27 AM #1015With increased difficulty comes higher production costs. This also means that if oil prices fall too low, costs will overwhelm revenues and production will shut down altogether.
The Canadian oil sands are a perfect example. Producing projects in the oil sands need an oil price of at least $60 per barrel to remain economic – and that assumes capital costs have already been repaid. To build a new oil sands project, a producer needs to believe prices will remain high enough to cover not only his basic production costs but also to repay his huge capital outlay. As such, new oil sands projects are uneconomic to develop without an oil price of at least $85 per barrel.
The oil sands are by no means the only important oil region with high production costs. To access most of the world's unconventional oil resources, companies need to drill horizontally, which costs much more than drilling vertically. After drilling horizontally, producers have to frac the well in many stages to achieve commercial production. This means each well costs many million Dollars, an expenditure that is not going to be economic at $40 oil.
What is more, these wells decline much more rapidly than conventional wells. Production from any well falls with each passing year, but with unconventional wells the decline can be dramatic. In fact, shale wells typically decline by more than 50% after their very first year. To maintain production, companies need to be constantly drilling and commissioning wells, a treadmill process that increases the production costs significantly.
In the world of unconventional production, companies are faced with a double whammy: they need to drill more wells than a conventional field would require; and each well is much more expensive. Companies are not going to bother with this challenge if low prices make it a money-losing endeavor. Once production begins to shut down, the world will panic and the price of oil will turn upward once again.Last edited by uls; June 2nd, 2012 at 11:32 AM.
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June 2nd, 2012 11:37 AM #1016Producing projects in the oil sands need an oil price of at least $60 per barrel to remain economic – and that assumes capital costs have already been repaid.Last edited by andywesteast; June 2nd, 2012 at 11:39 AM.
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June 2nd, 2012 01:17 PM #1020
oh btw i forgot
oil produced in Canada is not priced based on brent
it's priced is based on WTI. but at a discount
was talking about brent kasi but somebody injected Canada oil into the discussion
BENTEK: Canadian Oil Prices Will Experience Deeper Discounts to WTI over the Next Five Years | Business Wire
BENTEK: Canadian Oil Prices Will Experience Deeper Discounts to WTI over the Next Five Years
Crude oil prices at Western Canadian Select (WCS) will fall to an average of $27 below the West Texas Intermediate (WTI) benchmark in 2014 due to growing Canadian oil supply, flat demand from refining and limited pipeline takeaway capacity.
EVERGREEN, Colo.--(BUSINESS WIRE)--BENTEK Energy, a leading energy markets information and analytics company, reports that the health of Canada’s oil market will largely depend on transportation capacity to the U.S. over the next few years. While Canadian oil supply is expected to grow 31% through 2016, demand from Canadian refineries is expected to remain relatively flat. As a result, almost all incremental supply will be transported to the U.S. for refining. Currently, five of the six major pipeline systems that move crude across the Canadian-U.S. border are full or constrained by downstream markets and export pipeline capacity will be limited until new pipeline expansions come online starting mid-year 2015. Until then, average annual crude prices for WCS could fall to as much as $27 below the WTI benchmark. Light Syncrude prices also will face extreme pressure.
$27 below WTI? $56
so if WTI falls to $70?
oh well...
yeah i'm sure they know how to make money from oilLast edited by uls; June 2nd, 2012 at 01:20 PM.
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