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November 17th, 2013 11:18 AM #431Ay naku talaga. Ot na nga eh. Hindi nga nagpapasok ang bahay sambahan nyo sa mga nangangailangan nung humagupit ang unos.
Yung verb nyo ay naging in flesh. Pano nangyare na nakaligtaan yan? Yan nicene creed and the other following councils molded the bible that inc uses up to now. Kaya medyo malabo ka brad. Ayoko na. i rest my case.
John 1:1-2, 14-15, 34
In the beginning was the Word, and the Word was with God, and the Word was God.
He was in the beginning with God.
And the Word became flesh and made his dwelling among us, and we saw his glory, the glory as of the Father's only Son, full of grace and truth.
John testified to him and cried out, saying, "This was he of whom I said, 'The one who is coming after me ranks ahead of me because he existed before me.'"
Now I have seen and testified that he is the Son of God."
John 8:58
Jesus said to them, "Amen, amen, I say to you, before Abraham came to be, I AM."
John 10:30
"The Father and I are one."
John 20: 28
Thomas answered and said to him, "My Lord and my God!"
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November 17th, 2013 11:48 AM #432Nood ka muna ng International News sa New Zealand at Germany eto link tapos tanungin mo puso mo kung malinis ba ang ang akusasyon mo. Originally Posted by Dark Lord
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Originally Posted by Dark Lord
John 8:58
Jesus said to them, "Amen, amen, I say to you, before Abraham came to be, I AM."
Even the blind man said I AM or ego emi,can we simply equate the blind man as "GOD"? of course no.
John 10:30
"The Father and I are one."
Wala pong sinasabi sa talata na Dios si Cristo - Basahin nyo ang buong John 10, wala kayong mababasa na si Cristo ay Dios. John 10:30 implies that the Father and Christ are one in tending the flock.
John 20: 28
Thomas answered and said to him, "My Lord and my God!"
Keeping in mind that John 20:28 is embedded and framed in Jesus' statements about seeing and believing, carefully regard what Jesus taught us with respect to John 20:28.
Verse.................................Jesus....... ................................The Father
John 12:44..........................He who BELIEVES in ME..........[BELIEVES] in HIM who sent me.
John 12:45 ..........................He who SEES ME....................SEES HIM who sent me
John 14:9............................He who has SEEN ME..............has SEEN THE FATHER.
John 20:28..........................MY LORD.................................and MY GOD.
We have seen that preceding verse and the following verse of John 20:28, the immediate context, is about seeing and believing. Thomas' statement is embedded and framed by Jesus' comments on seeing and believing. Jesus explained on at least two occasions what it means to see and believe in him - that to see and believe in him was to see and believe in the Father.
And Jesus cried out and said, "He who believes in Me does not believe in Me but in Him who sent Me. He who sees Me sees Him who sent Me." (John 12:44-45).
He who has seen Me has seen the Father. (John 14:9).
My Lord and My God. (John 20:28).
The Greek Text
Thomas' words to Jesus in Greek literally read, "the Lord of me and the God of me." In Greek this is how one would refer to two persons. If one wanted to refer to one person he would say, "the Lord and God of me." This is confirmed by the first and Sixth Granville Sharp rules. However, Trinitarians make a convenient exception to the sixth rule for this particular verse.Last edited by Mile2; November 17th, 2013 at 11:53 AM.
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November 17th, 2013 12:12 PM #433INC worship center survives 'Yolanda' | ABS-CBN News Originally Posted by Mile2
11 families... Reported by eagle news which is owned by INC.
Gano kadami populasyon? Pakisilip dito Tacloban - Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia. Kahit gawin natin 10 members per family: 110 people laang yan out of the estimated 1,100 people per 1 square kilometer, based on density. Theres a likelihood that the kiwi and german reporter picked up the lucky guy who was allowed to enter the sambahan.
Hindi nako sasagot sa bible verses at doktrina nyo. Halata naman na iniiwasan lang yung mga punto ko at kung hindi naman eh classic case of different misinterpretations. Peace! Hehehe!
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November 17th, 2013 12:43 PM #434Peace din sa yo, isipin mo lang kung malinis ang puso mo sa pagparatang na di pinapasok sa kapilya namin ang di kapatid nuong panahaon ng bagyo Originally Posted by Dark Lord
INC worship center survives 'Yolanda' | ABS-CBN News
11 families... Reported by eagle news which is owned by INC. Gano kadami populasyon? Pakisilip dito Tacloban - Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia. Kahit gawin natin 10 members per family: 110 people laang yan out of the estimated 1,100 people per 1 square kilometer, based on density. Theres a likelihood that the kiwi and german reporter picked up the lucky guy who was allowed to enter the sambahan.
Hindi nako sasagot sa bible verses at doktrina nyo. Halata naman na iniiwasan lang yung mga punto ko at kung hindi naman eh classic case of different misinterpretations. Peace! Hehehe!
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November 17th, 2013 12:48 PM #435Hahahaha! Natawa naman ako dun! Well. Yun nga din yung sa tingin kong dahilan. Malamang kaya nag born again si Paquiao dahil dun :D Originally Posted by 170kphlang
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November 17th, 2013 12:53 PM #436Kasi naman, wala naman masama kung aaminin na may mali sa tinuturo ng INC eh. Nabubuking na kayo kaya ayaw na ninyo sumagot. O kaya ayaw niyo sumagot dahil narerealize na ninyo yun mga maling tinuturo sa inyo ni Manalo.
Never ever in my whole life na narinig kong mas mataas pa si Manalo ke Jesus Christ. For God's sake, hindi niyo pwedeng sabihin yan.
Jesus = Holy Spirit = Father God. Iisa lang ang Diyos, 3 persona, pero ilan ang Diyos? 1 lang...
Ulit ah, metamorphic ang bible. Di ito dapat iniinterpret ng kung sino-sinong tao lang. Di rin dapat nga ito ginagawang course dahil walang nakakaalam ng totoong meaning ng bible.
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November 17th, 2013 01:02 PM #437 Originally Posted by testament11
Ito yung naging topic nung nag attend ako sa isang mass ng inc
They are comparing 3 religions kung ilan talaga ang diyos..inc explains na 3 daw and diyos ng catholic..pero ang inc daw e iisa lang..diko na matandaan yung isa pang relihiyon na kinukumpara nila..
Saka bakit palagi pinagdidiinan ng inc yung "the church of christ"..palagi ko naririnig yan na
Paulitulit sa pagtitipon nila..
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November 17th, 2013 01:09 PM #438heto ang classic na explanation ng mga Trinitarians pag hindi makasagot Originally Posted by testament11
wala silang mabasa sa Bible na si Crito at mga Apostle ay nagturo ng 3 person God kaya ang palusot nila metamorphic :tvcomedy:
Di nila matanggap na ang 3 person God ay wala sa Bible, pinatupad lang ito ng Roman Emperor kaya nga yung pinakamalking religion ang pangalan ay Roman Catholic Church :question:
here's the false logic of Trinatarians
John 1:1 - Jesus is God
1. Trinitarians assume the Logos is a reference to a person and mentally replace the words "the Word" with "Jesus" and read their preconceived doctrine into the text.
2. The verse does not say, "the Word is God," or "Jesus is God," or "Jesus was God." John 1:14 reads, "the Word became flesh.
3. Trinitarians define the word "God" in two different ways (i.e. the Word was with [1. the Father] and the Word was [2. divine]) even though both instances of the word "God", Greek theos, are joined by the conjunction kai ("and"), and the Greek word order is, "with God and God" (pros ton theon kai theos). That John used two different definitions of the same word in one breath, "God and God," is extremely unlikely.
4. John points us back to Genesis chapter 1 three times, (1) "In the beginning," (2) All things were made through the Word, and (3) the light shines in the darkness.
5. We know that "in the beginning" God created all things by his spoken Word.Last edited by Mile2; November 17th, 2013 at 01:17 PM.
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November 17th, 2013 01:14 PM #439 Originally Posted by Mile2
Nood ka muna ng International News sa New Zealand at Germany eto link tapos tanungin mo puso mo kung malinis ba ang ang akusasyon mo.
John 8:58
Jesus said to them, "Amen, amen, I say to you, before Abraham came to be, I AM."
Even the blind man said I AM or ego emi,can we simply equate the blind man as "GOD"? of course no.
John 10:30
"The Father and I are one."
Wala pong sinasabi sa talata na Dios si Cristo - Basahin nyo ang buong John 10, wala kayong mababasa na si Cristo ay Dios. John 10:30 implies that the Father and Christ are one in tending the flock.
John 20: 28
Thomas answered and said to him, "My Lord and my God!"
Keeping in mind that John 20:28 is embedded and framed in Jesus' statements about seeing and believing, carefully regard what Jesus taught us with respect to John 20:28.
Verse.................................Jesus....... ................................The Father
John 12:44..........................He who BELIEVES in ME..........[BELIEVES] in HIM who sent me.
John 12:45 ..........................He who SEES ME....................SEES HIM who sent me
John 14:9............................He who has SEEN ME..............has SEEN THE FATHER.
John 20:28..........................MY LORD.................................and MY GOD.
We have seen that preceding verse and the following verse of John 20:28, the immediate context, is about seeing and believing. Thomas' statement is embedded and framed by Jesus' comments on seeing and believing. Jesus explained on at least two occasions what it means to see and believe in him - that to see and believe in him was to see and believe in the Father.
And Jesus cried out and said, "He who believes in Me does not believe in Me but in Him who sent Me. He who sees Me sees Him who sent Me." (John 12:44-45).
He who has seen Me has seen the Father. (John 14:9).
My Lord and My God. (John 20:28).
The Greek Text
Thomas' words to Jesus in Greek literally read, "the Lord of me and the God of me." In Greek this is how one would refer to two persons. If one wanted to refer to one person he would say, "the Lord and God of me." This is confirmed by the first and Sixth Granville Sharp rules. However, Trinitarians make a convenient exception to the sixth rule for this particular verse.
The Antichrist
1 John 2:18: Children, it is the last hour; and as you have heard that Antichrist is coming, so now many Antichrists have come; therefore we know that it is the last hour.
1 John 2:22: Who is the liar but he who denies that Jesus is the Christ? This is the Antichrist, he who denies the Father and the Son.
1 John 4:3: and every spirit which does not confess Jesus is not of God. This is the spirit of Antichrist, of which you heard that it was coming, and now it is in the world already.
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November 17th, 2013 01:34 PM #440Mile2, pakisagot naman ito. :bwahaha: Originally Posted by Cathy_for_you
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