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    Quote Originally Posted by 170kphlang View Post
    it is because religion in general is a control system just as much as media is manipulation and the government as a big corporation
    Marami akong kilalang kayang iexplain yung faith nila in reasonable and logical ways, and these people live lives not hampered by religion, but rather are better persons because of it.

    Ewan ko lang kung si mile2 ganun din. Kung etong mga post niya lang dito yung pagbabasehan, obviously hindi.


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    OT.
    Ask ko lang... Pati ba 10% ng Bonus need rin ibigay sa INC?
    Sayang rin 'yun ah... Pambili na rin ng gifts sa mga ina- anak kong INC. :sad:

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    Quote Originally Posted by jut703 View Post
    Marami akong kilalang kayang iexplain yung faith nila in reasonable and logical ways, and these people live lives not hampered by religion, but rather are better persons because of it.

    Ewan ko lang kung si mile2 ganun din. Kung etong mga post niya lang dito yung pagbabasehan, obviously hindi.


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    yup, not all uses religion as a control system but there are those who dare even use the word of the Lord to take advantage of others.. yung mga fanatic and fundamentalist ang nakakaawa at bulag na kadalasan mula sa realidad ng mga sitwasyon sa paligid nila na nakakasakit na sila ng ibang tao ng hindi pa nila nalalaman. mga saado na utak at kung ano lang ang i-feed sa utak nila ayon a grupo nila ay yun na yun and everything else is bad, the devil and evil. like some born agains that i know personally, dati close ko pa sila pero ngayon nung naging iba na ugali nila gaya ng nadescribe ko (not being true to their self) lumayo na ako unti-unti.. i'd rather have a mind opened by wonder than a closed one by belief.. (quote from someone i forgot)

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    nakakatamad mag backread :D

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    Quote Originally Posted by jut703 View Post
    Mile2, advice ko lang, wag kang umasa sa literal na syntax/phrasing ng nababasa mo sa bible, kasi kahit yan, translated na. And even the pure jewish text is of course adulterated because it was written by men (albeit divinely inspired as they say).

    Kung totoong naiintindihan mo ang relihiyon/kultong pinaniniwalaan mo, you should be able to express your understanding in your own words.


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    Hehehe matagal na kong nakikipag debate sa internet pero wala talagang basehan iyan 3 person God, kahit saan daanin, kahit pa gumamit ng hebrew at greek.

    The reality is that most advocates of 3 person God, read the Bible differently, they read John 10:30, "I and the Father are one" and they read it as One God hehehe di ko alam kung malabo ang mata o sinasadya na lang bulagin ang mata sa pagbasa. They read "only begotten Son of God" automatically they would read it as if Jesus is God. Read your Bible even Satan was once amongst the "sons of God", he was a fallen angel.

    Now there was a day when the sons of God came to present themselves before the LORD, and Satan also came among them. (Job 1:6).

    Begotten was translated from MONOGENES, rendering “one and only” is semantically reductionistic and theologically inadequate. In the Epistle to the Hebrews, it is said that when Abraham was ready to sacrifice Isaac he was offering up “his only-begotten” (11:17), although Abraham had another son.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Mile2 View Post
    Hehehe matagal na kong nakikipag debate sa internet pero wala talagang basehan iyan 3 person God, kahit saan daanin, kahit pa gumamit ng hebrew at greek.

    The reality is that most advocates of 3 person God, read the Bible differently, they read John 10:30, "I and the Father are one" and they read it as One God hehehe di ko alam kung malabo ang mata o sinasadya na lang bulagin ang mata sa pagbasa. They read "only begotten Son of God" automatically they would read it as if Jesus is God. Read your Bible even Satan was once amongst the "sons of God", he was a fallen angel.

    Now there was a day when the sons of God came to present themselves before the LORD, and Satan also came among them. (Job 1:6).

    Begotten was translated from MONOGENES, rendering “one and only” is semantically reductionistic and theologically inadequate. In the Epistle to the Hebrews, it is said that when Abraham was ready to sacrifice Isaac he was offering up “his only-begotten” (11:17), although Abraham had another son.

    ahh pero si manalo pa din ang huling sugo at ang far east ay ang pilipinas.

    hahahahah. yung obvious di mabasa ung hindi obvious at gustong paniwalaan "LEGIT".

    wahahahahah

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    Quote Originally Posted by brainmafia_310 View Post
    ahh pero si manalo pa din ang huling sugo at ang far east ay ang pilipinas.

    hahahahah. yung obvious di mabasa ung hindi obvious at gustong paniwalaan "LEGIT".

    wahahahahah
    Go laugh on the obvious Read your bible and be informed.

    Have you ever noticed that the Lord has a God and that the Bible speaks of the God of the Lord?


    Blessed be the God and Father of our Lord Jesus Christ, the Father of mercies and God of all comfort. (2 Corinthians 1:3).

    The God and Father of our Lord Jesus. (2 Corinthians 11:31).

    Blessed be the God and Father of our Lord Jesus Christ. (Ephesians 1:3).

    The God of our Lord Jesus Christ, the Father of glory. (Ephesians 1:17).

    We give thanks to the God and Father of our Lord Jesus Christ" (Colossians 1:3).

    Blessed be the God and Father of our Lord Jesus Christ" (1 Peter 1:3).

    These verses literally read in the Greek, "The God... of the Lord of us."

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    But then when we move further to Galatians 4:5, we will know in what exact context Paul meant by huios when he refers to followers of Christ in his letter to Galatians. Obviously, he was careful to clarify this.

    Interlinear Bible for Galatians 4:5:
    To {hina (#2443)} redeem {exagorazo (#1805)} them {xurao (#3588)} that were under {hupo (#5259) the law}, {nomos (#3551)} that {hina (#2443)} we might receive {apolambano (#618)} the {xurao (#3588)} adoption of sons. {huiothesia (#5206)}
    Galatians 4:5 (KJV) - To redeem them that were un - Forerunner Commentary - Interlinear Bible

    Otherwise, teknon is used to refer to children of God.

    For better explanation: link

    same site, BTW.
    Last edited by safeorigin; December 7th, 2013 at 02:36 AM.
    Damn, son! Where'd you find this?

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    Quote Originally Posted by Mile2 View Post
    Hehehe matagal na kong nakikipag debate sa internet pero wala talagang basehan iyan 3 person God, kahit saan daanin, kahit pa gumamit ng hebrew at greek.

    The reality is that most advocates of 3 person God, read the Bible differently, they read John 10:30, "I and the Father are one" and they read it as One God hehehe di ko alam kung malabo ang mata o sinasadya na lang bulagin ang mata sa pagbasa. They read "only begotten Son of God" automatically they would read it as if Jesus is God. Read your Bible even Satan was once amongst the "sons of God", he was a fallen angel.

    Now there was a day when the sons of God came to present themselves before the LORD, and Satan also came among them. (Job 1:6).

    Begotten was translated from MONOGENES, rendering “one and only” is semantically reductionistic and theologically inadequate. In the Epistle to the Hebrews, it is said that when Abraham was ready to sacrifice Isaac he was offering up “his only-begotten” (11:17), although Abraham had another son.
    Are you implying the God had another son to another woman?

    You really don't understand what sons/children mean in those passages.

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    Magpapa convert ako to INC basta no money involve....pwede kaya yun?...pag may session kasi sila payabangan sa pagdadala ng pagkain...yun ang wala sa catholic hehehehehehehe

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