Plug (pasak) then Patch (tapal) on tire?

[k_leos]

Before buying 4 new wheels, I need to try something. Pa redone ko yun plug (pasak) sa right vulganizing who use can use proper tools. So I guess he will push the existing ones inside, clean/remove the oil, and then use a new string rubber plug that is glued inside using the right tools as explained in:

How To Use A Tire Plug Kit The Right Way

Now the biggest question is, sino vulganizing shop or repair center na meron right tools or own complete kits like in Lazada



Who are competent enough to do it? You can dm me if you don't it mentioned here. Thanks.

[StockEngine]

youre going in circles. just have it patched at another tire center. even if the tire is over 6yo you can still use it. the pictures tell me theyre still decent even in wet conditions.

goodyear tire centers are ok.

[kagalingan]

kleo,

mukhang hindi ka na nakakatulog jan magnewnew year na stress na stress ka. Dalhin mo muna doon sa sinabi ko 150 lang sedan 200 ata 250 pag monstero / fortuner size gulong.

masyado na advance mga gulong. Sa kotse ko ngayon litaw na alambre ginagamit ko pa din. City driving naman ako.

6years ago nga bumiyak na portion gulong dinadrive ko pa din habang hindi nagfaflat. Ganyan ako kakuripot hahaha!!!!

Wag ka muna bumili bagong gulong. Ipacheck mo sa vulcanizing dahil sa dami ng experience alam nila kung tatagal or risky na.

[dr. d]

Sa kotse ko ngayon litaw na alambre ginagamit ko pa din. City driving naman ako.

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heh heh heh.

[dr. d]

Before buying 4 new wheels, I need to try something. Pa redone ko yun plug (pasak) sa right vulganizing who use can use proper tools. So I guess he will push the existing ones inside, clean/remove the oil, and then use a new string rubber plug that is glued inside using the right tools as explained in:

How To Use A Tire Plug Kit The Right Way

Now the biggest question is, sino vulganizing shop or repair center na meron right tools or own complete kits like in Lazada



Who are competent enough to do it? You can dm me if you don't it mentioned here. Thanks.

like stock says,
bring it to a tyre shop and have them apply a cold patch. end of problem.

and don't worry about the five-lug design.
'buti ka nga, the trickster has to loosen five lugs.
he has to loosen only four lugs in my small car, but it hasn't happened yet.
'knock on wood.'

.. might i inquire,
how long have you had this vehicle?

[TheUninvited]

Actually ang norm yata nowadays is yung patch plug combination. Bali cold patch siya na may built-in plug na din. So you get the best repair possible.

Wala lang ako alam na local shop na may ganyan na.

Anyway, okay pa naman ang cold patch. I've had a huge hole that required 3 patches, okay pa naman till now. Naka akyat na din ng Baguio.

Medyo badtrip lang kase 1 week old pa lang sakin yung PS4 when it happened.

[k_leos]

like stock says,
bring it to a tyre shop and have them apply a cold patch. end of problem.

and don't worry about the five-lug design.
'buti ka nga, the trickster has to loosen five lugs.
he has to loosen only four lugs in my small car, but it hasn't happened yet.
'knock on wood.'

.. might i inquire,
how long have you had this vehicle?

Do you know the inside view of a tyre string plugged? I learnt a lot yesterday. here is how it look like



The hole is much bigger than just from the original nail or screw. Not only that. This is inside view of tire after the string plug was placed.




If you will grind the inside surface of the hole for patch repair. You should remove the blob. And if you remove the blob, masama rin yun little plug in the hole, or ma detached easily. When glenn_duke was describing about patching after plugging days ago. I imagined the string plug as extended straight and the tyre much thicker, so kala ko ma retain the plug after inner surface grind. Pero realized hindi puwede yesterday.

If you leave the hole open, it's much larger than from the nail when you do any patch as first attempt without any plug. Much mabilis ma rust belt with open hole.

Therefore hindi feasible yun patching it after removing the plug. Hence I'm repeating the plug, just tell me saan exactly vulcanizing shop with complete plug kit and procedure used. Remember sa akin they didnt use reamer to roughten the inside hole and didn't use rubber cement but instead oil.

This is complete and right procedure to do a string plug, reamer must be used and rubber cement

Tyre Puncture Repair Kit Tutorial - YouTube

I owned the car for 6 years already, the tyres original and not yet replaced.

Wala mabili na mushroom patch dito. I checked at lazada last night and it will take a week or more from china to arrive. I need to use the car before one week. Unless Syuryuken can share a piece of them here since the minimum you can buy is 20 pieces? Also hope you can tell me Syuyuken, saan exactly na Yokohama center pina install mo mushroom patch so doon ko rin pagawa. Mahirap yun pa try mo sa any vulganizing shop for first time. Kasi you still need to put sealant around the mushroom flat head after putting the rubber cement, and pulled the mushroom stem from the outside, too much force ma tear. Too little hindi maka contact. Dapat yun expert na kabit dyan.

[Miles_on]

Anyway, okay pa naman ang cold patch. I've had a huge hole that required 3 patches, okay pa naman till now. Naka akyat na din ng Baguio.

I would've made it a spare tire na lang siguro in my case.

Share ko na rin and quote from the manufacturer's website:

Do not attempt to repair tires with tread punctures larger than 6mm or any sidewall puncture

What to Do With a Soft or Flat Tyre | Michelin Tyre Safety


Other highlights from the web page:

An on-the-wheel plug-only repair is not reliable and is dangerous because after a puncture the inside of a tire must be inspected.

The proper repair of a radial tire (most tires) includes the placing of a rubber patch on the inner liner of the tire and a rubber filling of the hole.

Ang tanong, based on the discussion so far, may facilities ba dito sa `Pinas for the so called "proper repair", or tipong 3rd world bara bara (whatever works!) repairs lang? Wala pa naman ata nadale sa atin (pwera usog!) from mga local na gawa

[dr. d]

Do you know the inside view of a tyre string plugged? I learnt a lot yesterday. here is how it look like



The hole is much bigger than just from the original nail or screw. Not only that. This is inside view of tire after the string plug was placed.




If you will grind the inside surface of the hole for patch repair. You should remove the blob. And if you remove the blob, masama rin yun little plug in the hole, or ma detached easily. When glenn_duke was describing about patching after plugging days ago. I imagined the string plug as extended straight and the tyre much thicker, so kala ko ma retain the plug after inner surface grind. Pero realized hindi puwede yesterday.

If you leave the hole open, it's much larger than from the nail when you do any patch as first attempt without any plug. Much mabilis ma rust belt with open hole.

Therefore hindi feasible yun patching it after removing the plug. Hence I'm repeating the plug, just tell me saan exactly vulcanizing shop with complete plug kit and procedure used. Remember sa akin they didnt use reamer to roughten the inside hole and didn't use rubber cement but instead oil.

This is complete and right procedure to do a string plug, reamer must be used and rubber cement

Tyre Puncture Repair Kit Tutorial - YouTube

I owned the car for 6 years already, the tyres original and not yet replaced.

Wala mabili na mushroom patch dito. I checked at lazada last night and it will take a week or more from china to arrive. I need to use the car before one week. Unless Syuryuken can share a piece of them here since the minimum you can buy is 20 pieces? Also hope you can tell me Syuyuken, saan exactly na Yokohama center pina install mo mushroom patch so doon ko rin pagawa. Mahirap yun pa try mo sa any vulganizing shop for first time. Kasi you still need to put sealant around the mushroom flat head after putting the rubber cement, and pulled the mushroom stem from the outside, too much force ma tear. Too little hindi maka contact. Dapat yun expert na kabit dyan.

if you must use the car, and you fear for your safety using that pasak'd tyre,
replace your pasak'd tyre with your spare tyre.
use your pasak'd tyre as your spare tyre, in the meantime.
you may have that pasak'd tyre patched up with cold patch or other method, at your leisure, if you wish.
or, if you fear for your safety, even if that tyre has already been 'repaired', then just purcha$e a new tyre. hey! it's six years old, if you believe that.

over the years,
i have experienced flat tyre in so many ways.
alambre, pakong bakya, screwdriver shaft (no handle), one peso coin (the tear was so long, tyre folks thought it was dangerous to repair), and even a stationary lamp post's sharp metal base (ripped my tyre to shreds).

while i did once have a pasak repair from a branded establishment (it leaked still!), none of my cold patch repairs have ever failed.
i have tried several shops, from fully-manual lean-to jobs in the nearby province, to fully-powered brand-name establishments in the big city.

good luck, sir.

[Miles_on]

and even a stationary lamp post's sharp metal base.

Ah, you said it Doc.
Not just lamp posts, other hazards I've come across included an old sign post na putol na (nilagare... ninakaw and sold by the kilo pehaps) Didn't hit the tire, but scratched the left fender/bumper.

Hindi mo pa makita yung mga yan! Out of your field of vision below the hood (mababa eh).