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    #961
    Errr you can move the shifter from P without pressing the brakes?


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    #962
    Yung driver ng natumbling appears to be very senior indeed... Age could be a factor too. Ilan mga reported MS SUA mga may-edad na driver?

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    In late February the Los Angeles Times published an analysis of all 56 Toyota fatality-associated sudden-acceleration cases over last decade, using information from the National Highway Traffic Safety Administration (NHTSA) and elsewhere. The Atlantic�s Megan McCardle did supplemental research on ages. She found the overwhelming majority of drivers were older than 55.

    And sure enough the elderly are also vastly more likely to report accidents they believe to be caused by sudden acceleration.

    A 1996 study of such incidents by NHTSA�s Office of Defects Investigation regarding General Motors vehicles found that drivers over age 69 had almost seven times the number of such accidents per driver as those under age 38. This is all the more remarkable in that seniors account for less than 3% of all miles driven, while those under 38 account for 50%.

    Physical limitations like limited peripheral vision and slower reflexes hardly explain these. What does, says UCLA psychologist Richard A. Schmidt, is a �noisy neuromuscular process.� Schmidt investigated more than 150 cases of unintended acceleration in the 1980s, many of which became the subjects of lawsuits.

    �The driver does not really confuse the accelerator and the brake,� explained Schmidt in a recent New York Times op-ed. �Rather, the limbs do not do exactly what the brain tells them to.� The �noise� causes them to perform an �action slightly different from the one intended. The driver intends to press the brake, but once in a while these neuromuscular processes cause the foot to deviate from the intended trajectory.�

    At that point panic often kicks in, so the driver doesn�t shut off the ignition, shift into neutral or use the parking brake. Instead he or she just presses the ersatz �brake� harder and harder. And the car zooms faster and faster.
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    #963
    Quote Originally Posted by Monseratto View Post
    Yung driver ng natumbling appears to be very senior indeed... Age could be a factor too. Ilan mga reported MS SUA mga may-edad na driver?
    A large majority, from what I remember of cases past. Those that aren't are female drivers with limited experience.

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    #964
    Quote Originally Posted by niky View Post
    A large majority, from what I remember of cases past. Those that aren't are female drivers with limited experience.
    But why is it happening only in the Philippines ?

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    #965
    Yep. Bumaliktad montero nya kasi kinabig nya pakanan. Matatakot ako nyan pag ang pajero sport ng thailand at montero challenger ng australia may SUA. Sa dami ng strada dito sa pinas wala pa din reported issue regarding SUA knowing na same engine and platform sila ng montero.

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    #966
    Dapat ba lagyan na lang ng emergency engine shut off ang mga montero? Katulad ng mga generators ung pulang button na meron marking press in case of emergency.

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    #967
    I guess because there are a lot of MS on the road so the possibility of reporting a "SUA" accident increases...

    Senior driver says engine goes wild, goes even wilder when he steps on the "brakes"...

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    #968
    Quote Originally Posted by Manilablock View Post
    Dapat ba lagyan na lang ng emergency engine shut off ang mga montero? Katulad ng mga generators ung pulang button na meron marking press in case of emergency.
    no need, presence of mind lang to push the AT shift lever from D to N, nasanay kase tayo sa wrong way of doing it na need pa pindutin ang shift lock button from D to N making risk of accidental tranny damage due to pwede siya mag slip at malagay sa REVERSE!

    the safety button is there for a reason, plus also the users manual which nobody reads, next movement ng auto companies wala na hard copy ng users manual, for more added savings...

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    Quote Originally Posted by Manilablock View Post
    Dapat ba lagyan na lang ng emergency engine shut off ang mga montero? Katulad ng mga generators ung pulang button na meron marking press in case of emergency.
    no need, presence of mind lang to push the AT shift lever from D to N, nasanay kase tayo sa wrong way of doing it na need pa pindutin ang shift lock button from D to N making risk of accidental tranny damage due to pwede siya mag slip at malagay sa REVERSE!

    the safety button is there for a reason, plus also the users manual which nobody reads, next movement ng auto companies wala na hard copy ng users manual, for more added savings...

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    #969
    Quote Originally Posted by Monseratto View Post
    I guess because there are a lot of MS on the road so the possibility of reporting a "SUA" accident increases...

    Senior driver says engine goes wild, goes even wilder when he steps on the "brakes"...


    Some facts, based on video/interview:

    Plate Number: NSI 676 - Y2009 release - [Has Mitsubishi "recalled" MS earlier on ???]

    Retired DPWH Engineer....

    Owns a black Grand Starex, too. There could be a third one based on the spacing in their garage...

    Allegedly,- nothing happened even if he stepped on the brake (pedal).


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    #970
    sana may statistics tayo ng ilan ang may cruise control vs sa wala na nag SUA...

    dito sa recent video wala siya cruise control... but if the drivers claim was true at of no fault siya meaning, the ECU received a command to floor it! something being done by a cruise control module to reach its set/reset speed, but may safety feature ito, it will only work 40km/h and above... but if the unit has no cruise control option, (maybe there is but is just being disabled by the dealer), then it might have activated but the safety feature is still disabled... just an idea...

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    sana may statistics tayo ng ilan ang may cruise control vs sa wala na nag SUA...

    dito sa recent video wala siya cruise control... but if the drivers claim was true at of no fault siya meaning, the ECU received a command to floor it! something being done by a cruise control module to reach its set/reset speed, but may safety feature ito, it will only work 40km/h and above... but if the unit has no cruise control option, (maybe there is but is just being disabled by the dealer), then it might have activated but the safety feature is still disabled... just an idea...

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