Mitsubishi Montero Sudden Acceleration Accidents [MERGED]

[111prez]

CAGI members cannot take into consideration reported incidents that have no factual basis. We base our scores based on real/actual driving tests done.

exactly

kudos to CAGI and its testers for keeping it real/factual



and not making it a simple popularity/voting contest, like say AF-PCOTY

:hysterical:

[arnoldclark]

from http://www.manilastandardtoday.com/2...-to-consumers/

My family and I are recent victims of the Montero's Sudden Acceleration "defect". We were parked in front of the Metropolitan Museum of Manila, last March 21, facing Roxas Boulevard, before the unfortunate incident of the Montero’s sudden acceleration occurred. The driver first releasing the hand break, secondly shifting the gear from P to the R, then slowly releasing his right foot from the break pad, when the vehicle drove in reverse with unexpected sudden burst of speed, it could have been approximately 25-30 km/h. At this speed we grazed a passing Ford Taurus’ right backside. Instinctively, the driver pulled the hand break and stepped on the foot breaks to prevent further possible damage on other cars parked on the other side of the road. For inexplicable reasons, the vehicle instantly sped forward, jumping over the approximately 1 foot high gutter, continuing over a medium size tree, only stopping once the car landed on said tree, which was uprooted by the force of the onrushing car, right in front of a large tree, fortunately preventing the vehicle and its 4 passengers (the whole Cortes family was inside the vehicle when this occurred) to drive straight into Roxas Boulevard.
The vehicle is being investigated and we have been promised to receive feedback and a decision from Mitsubishi by this Friday, March 30.

[spotdog11]

Well, this one is unique. The car shifted itself from reverse gear to drive.

[Walter]

This is something new. Been a long time since I last saw a Ford Taurus.

Could the inexplicable reason be ... Driver panicked?!?!? No wonder the vehicle did not stop, driver's foot was on the brake pad!!! Literally stepping on the brakes. So now stepping on the brakes causes the transmission to shift.

There seems to be a lot Sudden Intended Publication of Sudden Unintended Acceleration issues.

[niky]

Noticed that too. I wonder... he probably hit the only Ford Taurus in the Philippines. That old one bearing diplomatic plates. I ain't holding my breath waiting for photo evidence...

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Excuse me while I call BS on that story. In this case, instead of having two separate subsystems fail at the exact same time, you have several.

Driver shifts into Reverse... foot on brake, releases handbrake... car jumps backwards as he eases off brakes... then driver pulls handbrake (doesn't shift) and stomps on the foot brake... car surges forward? Makes sense? Obviously not. You have three completely separate systems failing at the same time.

Try: Driver shifts into Reverse. Thinks he's standing on the brakes, but he's on the gas, and the handbrake is holding it in place. Releases handbrake, engine surges because his foot is still partially on the gas. Car jumps backward. Driver panics, presses harder on the gas, pulls handbrake and shifts into neutral... then overshoots into Drive because there's no N-D lockout... now he's full on the gas and surges forward because he hasn't pulled up the handbrake far enough.

Makes much more sense than a ghost in the machine that ignores shifter position... one that somehow warps space and time and causes the wrong potentiometer to send signals to the transmission box. And this only required one factor to go wrong. The driver.

Logic demands that the simplest solution that takes into account all possibilities and facts is often the one that's true. And there's nothing simple (or even remotely easy) about causing a total multi-systems failure involving several completely separate vehicular controls all at the same instant.

Nag-myth buster na nga si ferman lao and co., pero wala pa din. Meron lang talagang sobrang naniniguro IMO.

Those of us who have driven (or own) Montero Sports have tried it every which way, and couldn't replicate the incidents.

This is a puzzle like video game beta testing. You try to replicate all the conditions and actions that led up to the incident to identify what keystroke code or conditions would cause a software error. It's very difficult, but if you know the proximate cause, you can show how it happens. Like with "engine knock"... where you simply need to apply load in a high gear at low rpm... or with ignition coil or camshaft sensor issues, where you drive the car and heatsoak it in traffic for a while.

We've tried every which way to replicate it. My vote goes to anti-stall logic in the ECU raising the rpm too high under brakes, but so far, I can't replicate it on a manual, and it never intervenes on an automatic... which kind of kills the theory, since all the cases are automatics.

[glenn_duke]

Malamang the driver at his age of 56 ay first time lang naka drive ng A/T.
Kaya madaling na confused specially when in panic.

[jaymd]

saw sa FB the other day may nagpost ng unintended acceleration incident din and mitsu motors corp was offering to buy back the "defective unit". baka gagawin guinea pig yun kotse. sa strada ba may reports ng ganyan? since afaik parehas naman engine ecu and drivetrain ng strada/monty. o talagang praning lang drivers ng montero na pag may nakikita na riding in tandem na motor nagpapanic. carjack time hehe. nalilito kung ano pedal ang aapakan

[gundam]

If you like to stop the SUA MS, step on the footbrake first before handbrake...
And maybe while in panic its possible that you accidentally pull the shift lever from reverse to drive since your technique is pull the hnadbrake first before footbrake.

[adventure21]

Kawawa ka naman, natakot ka dahil sa black propaganda.

May kasabihan nga, "Ang naniniwala sa sabi-sabi, walang bait sa sarili". Just an opinion also.

pre you mean all those accident are gawa gawa lang.. look whos talking kung sino walang bait sa sarili.. its my comments to you..

[Ry_Tower]

pre you mean all those accident are gawa gawa lang.. look whos talking kung sino walang bait sa sarili.. its my comments to you..

whatever....