US government shutdown - your thoughts?

[roninblade]

At first they want to delay implementation but that did not work so they said put out waivers to lessen the impact on the economy. Democrats want full implementation period. No talks no nothing unless Obama care is funded.

They passed bills to fund other sectors of government but democrats rejected unless republicans cave in to full implementation.

you still have this in reverse dude. it is the GOP who keep on inserting obamacare into the picture when it should not be up for discussion at this point. health care reform budget and implementation specifically should not be up for discussion at this point.

get this through your head - OBAMACARE'S FUNDING AND IMPLEMENTATION SHOULD NOT BE UP FOR DISCUSSION AT THIS POINT. IT WAS THE GOP WHO MADE THE IMPLEMENTATION A STRINGENT REQUIREMENT FOR THE BUDGET.

good god, if this is what it's like talking to a tea party congressman then i pity the democrats in the senate.

[CVT]

source: euronews.com

John Boehner the Republican Speaker of the House of Representatives appears in no mood for compromise.“What the president said today was if there is unconditional surrender by Republicans, he’ll sit down and talk to us. That’s not the way our government works. Thanks everybody"

Ayos, ha? Sila pa ang nag-charge na pinapa-"surrender unconditionally"......



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[uls]

But the Democrats are stopping it to be funded. No Obama care no talks. That's their stand point.

huh?

Obamacare is law na nga eh

it has funding na

it has been rolled out na

kaya nga gusto ng Republicans putulin ang funding kasi may funding na

you're confused

do you know what Obama doesnt wanna negotiate with Republicans about now?

the debt ceiling

Obama wants the Republicans to pass a clean budget first before he will discuss the debt ceiling

if the Republicans don't pass a clean budget there will be no talks re the debt celing

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get this through your head - OBAMACARE'S FUNDING AND IMPLEMENTATION SHOULD NOT BE UP FOR DISCUSSION AT THIS POINT. IT WAS THE GOP WHO MADE THE IMPLEMENTATION A STRINGENT REQUIREMENT FOR THE BUDGET.

Ayaw ko na, galit na eh.

Go democrats na to satisfy your ego.

[uls]

kaya i said the shutdown wont just be a few days

it's gonna be weeks

pareho matigas both sides eh

aabot ito hanggang Oct 17 (the day the US Treasury says they run out of cash) or lampas pa

it has to take a major market meltdown to force both sides to act

[roninblade]

Ayaw ko na, galit na eh.

Go democrats na to satisfy your ego.

yeah, i think you're just trolling everybody here. just like the republicans in congress.

[Balikpinoy]

kaya i said the shutdown wont just be a few days

it's gonna be weeks

pareho matigas both sides eh

aabot ito hanggang Oct 17 (the day the US Treasury says they run out of cash) or lampas pa

it has to take a major market meltdown to force both sides to act

Unfortunately, many in the tea party movement also believe that defaulting is not a big issue. A bunch of stupid blowhards have taken control of the Republican party and no reason or logic will convince them otherwise.

[niky]

But the Democrats are stopping it to be funded. No Obama care no talks. That's their stand point.

Para maintindihan mo na.

You and I, we are part owners of a restaurant.

Every week, we agree on a marketing budget for food.

Last month, we argued over the purchase of an automated billboard for the front of the restaurant. An expense to be paid for out of the savings account (not the checking account used for marketing). This will cost a lot and impact the bottomline, and it will make for extra work for the employees, who have to type out the menu and promotions, clean it, etcetera. Some employees don't want it. Some like the idea.

You hated it. But at a meeting of partners you're outvoted three to one.

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You're still pissed. So you say that if we don't give up the billboard, you will not sign the checks for marketing. And all checks need the signatures of all partners.

You'll sign the checks if we sell the billboard. You'll sign the checks if we stop running the billboard, so the electricity cost won't add to our expenses. You'll sign the checks if we don't force employees to man the billboard teleprompter console.

The other partners do not agree. We've gone through the trouble of starting it, the bills have to be paid to the supplier, and the billboard is there. You don't fricking care. Your way or the highway.

Walang kinalaman ang billboard sa food budget. It doesn't come from the marketing fund. There's no reason to even talk about it when working out the week's marketing.

That's what the Tea Party is doing.

Don't get what you want, bring the whole thing burning down in blackmail.

Get it now?

It's not whether they're right or wrong about Obamacare. I personally don't like compulsory insurance. People should be free to choose. It's about whether they're right to shut down the US Government and imperil the world economy just to get one concession they could work out themselves after winning the next election.

Capiche?

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Ok troll ako :bwahaha:

[roninblade]

Ok troll ako

heh, then prove me wrong. because so far all you've done is keep spouting the same argument without really acknowledging any thing we said. yeah, you quoted us in your posts, but your reply doesn't really address what we said in the first place.

i upper-cased my previous response just on the off chance that you'll finally recognize what people here are saying - that the budget is not the proper time and place to discuss the implementation of a law that was already passed. you seem to think the republicans are correct in questioning the implementation of obamacare at this point in time. if you don't like any law that was passed there is a proper procedure to repeal/reverse that law. the budget should just be about the budget. nothing more. nothing less.