migration

**Jun aka Pekto** · August 9th, 2019 09:48 PM

Originally Posted by _Cathy_

Wow. Just wow. Anti immigrant talaga.

Good thing I got in as an immigrant bago naghigpit. Mine was approved during Obama's time (2016)

So far, the USCIS web site still shows the FWVP functioning as normal. Regardless, the FWVP program expires in 2021 even if Trump didn't make any change. By the time Trump's changes take effect, it'll be 2021 or close to it. Still, it would be a good idea if those who qualify for it took advantage of it asap.

Also, it's all about politics. There are probably some stats somewhere that show naturalized Pinoys either vote Democrat or they're concentrated in Democrat states (like California) where even if they voted Red, it wouldn't make any difference during elections.

On the other hand, Trump seems to have made a lot of traction with blacks. Over the past 3 years, I noticed a marked increase in blacks who are pro-Trump. It certainly shows here where I am. There also seems a lot more black YouTubers who are pro-Trump.

**Monseratto** · August 13th, 2019 01:55 PM

If you are a applying for or are a green card holder, and you cannot support yourself or use food stamps to survive...

Trump Policy Favors Wealthier Immigrants for Green Cards - The New York Times

WASHINGTON — President Trump on Monday broadened his assault on the nation’s immigration system, issuing a new rule targeting legal immigrants who want to remain in the United States but whose lack of financial resources are judged likely to make them a burden on taxpayers.

The new regulation is aimed at hundreds of thousands of immigrants who enter the country legally every year and then apply to become permanent residents. Starting in October, the government’s decision will be based on an aggressive wealth test to determine whether those immigrants have the means to support themselves.

Poor immigrants will be denied permanent legal status, also known as a green card, if they are deemed likely to use government benefit programs such as food stamps and subsidized housing. Wealthier immigrants, who are designated as less likely to require public assistance, will be able to obtain a green card.

**_Cathy_** · August 13th, 2019 02:02 PM

Originally Posted by Monseratto

If you are a applying for or are a green card holder, and you cannot support yourself or use food stamps to survive...

Trump Policy Favors Wealthier Immigrants for Green Cards - The New York Times

Wasn't this always the rule? The petitioner has to submit ITRs and proof of assets. There is a minimum monthly cash flow requirement para pumasa. This is to guarantee that the applicant will be supported by the petitioner and NOT be a burden to the government. Also, I find this weird because when you come in as a permanent resident, you are automatically given a green card. I was asked even BEFORE I left Manila where I want my green card to be mailed. UNLESS, there are other categories that don't automatically give the green card.

I don't like Trump but I agree with this. It's unfair to immigrate to a country and have the government support you. Either you or the people who brought you to the US should support.

**Jun aka Pekto** · August 13th, 2019 02:03 PM

Originally Posted by Monseratto

If you are a applying for or are a green card holder, and you cannot support yourself or use food stamps to survive...

Like it or not, a lot of people here support that. After all, what do you think the sponsor information is during the application process? It's not just a name and address for reference.

**SpinCycle** · August 13th, 2019 05:46 PM

Very similar to the most cited reason why the Brits majority voted to leave the EU. They felt that they were losing their identity as Britain plus immigrants are using up medical and housing funds that should have gone to them.

Ironic given their propensity to take land from other nations during the days of the Empire.

**Jun aka Pekto** · August 14th, 2019 05:23 AM

Originally Posted by SpinCycle

Very similar to the most cited reason why the Brits majority voted to leave the EU. They felt that they were losing their identity as Britain plus immigrants are using up medical and housing funds that should have gone to them.

Ironic given their propensity to take land from other nations during the days of the Empire.

Someone correct me if I'm wrong. But, I thought immigrant benefits that are considered "public funds" only applied to EU member countries. Those who were part of the "Empire" do not qualify for them, regardless. Brexit or no Brexit. Then again, there may be exceptions. Plus, there are housing benefits that are considered public funds.

My wife's cousin (along with hubby and kid) immigrated to England during the previous decade. They live in an apartment in London. When she gets some free time, I can ask her what benefits she received as a non-EU immigrant.

**SpinCycle** · August 14th, 2019 11:33 PM

Originally Posted by Jun aka Pekto

Someone correct me if I'm wrong. But, I thought immigrant benefits that are considered "public funds" only applied to EU member countries. Those who were part of the "Empire" do not qualify for them, regardless. Brexit or no Brexit. Then again, there may be exceptions. Plus, there are housing benefits that are considered public funds.

My wife's cousin (along with hubby and kid) immigrated to England during the previous decade. They live in an apartment in London. When she gets some free time, I can ask her what benefits she received as a non-EU immigrant.

Non-EU nationals who immigrate to the UK generally don't have any benefits. That's why the Brits have no issues with non-EU immigrants in general.

The EU immigrants have had access to the following:

Working tax credit
Child tax credit
Child benefit
Housing benefit

thus Brexiteers have pointed to this as one of the major benefits if the UK leaves the EU.

**Jun aka Pekto** · August 15th, 2019 02:23 AM

Originally Posted by SpinCycle

Non-EU nationals who immigrate to the UK generally don't have any benefits. That's why the Brits have no issues with non-EU immigrants in general.

The EU immigrants have had access to the following:

Working tax credit
Child tax credit
Child benefit
Housing benefit

thus Brexiteers have pointed to this as one of the major benefits if the UK leaves the EU.

So, in short, it's the EU immigrants the Brits have a beef with and not the colonial empire migrants. OK.

**SpinCycle** · August 15th, 2019 04:32 AM

Originally Posted by Jun aka Pekto

So, in short, it's the EU immigrants the Brits have a beef with and not the colonial empire migrants. OK.

Yup. I never meant to indicate that they had issues with their previously colonies. More of pointing out the irony that now they are the ones on the receiving end of an "invasion" do they cry foul.

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