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    Sir boybi, ano ba HP ng aircon mo?

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    #82
    Quote Originally Posted by boybi View Post
    Ilan aircon ba ang kaya ng 22kva? May 1hp pa na water pump and refrigerators. Plus mga ilaw.
    Bro.,- 1HP=746W- for simplicity.- let's put it at 1KW or 1KVA - so for every 1HP comprehending starting current (x3)- plan for 3KVA capacity.

    So, for your factor of safety for motors with huge starting current,- then your 22KVA can support 7HP total, probably more, but you can experiment and monitor, as this is on the very safe side... Lighting,- not much load so this is your extra 1KVA.....(22/3 = 7 remainder of 1)

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    Thanks CVT.

    Yung 1hp na water pump pala nasa ibang phase na ng genset separate from the house. So aircon, lighting and ref nalang nasa bahay.
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    Quote Originally Posted by boybi View Post
    Thanks CVT.

    Yung 1hp na water pump pala nasa ibang phase na ng genset separate from the house. So aircon, lighting and ref nalang nasa bahay.
    Just be sure bro, that your water pump is TOTALLY ISOLATED from your other circuits... Else, delikado na mag-overvoltage ang mga iyan at sumabog....

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    What do you mean by totally isolated? May sarili lang syang breaker switch, ok na ba ito?
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    Quote Originally Posted by boybi View Post
    What do you mean by totally isolated? May sarili lang syang breaker switch, ok na ba ito?
    It means that it does not have a common line with your house. Because if it has, then you are essentially feeding 2 sinusoidal waves for everything.... It will be a disaster.

    Dapat, ang iyong water pump is directly connected ONLY to your generator's (2nd) phase....

    Yes, it has its own circuit breaker, but how do you connect? And how is the connection, relative to your house's circuit?- Dapat magkahiwalay sila, bro.

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    Quote Originally Posted by CVT View Post


    It means that it does not have a common line with your house. Because if it has, then you are essentially feeding 2 sinusoidal waves for everything.... It will be a disaster.

    Dapat, ang iyong water pump is directly connected ONLY to your generator's (2nd) phase....

    Yes, it has its own circuit breaker, but how do you connect? And how is the connection, relative to your house's circuit?- Dapat magkahiwalay sila, bro.

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    From the utility, same circuit lang yung water pump with the house.

    From the genset, mag kaiba ng phase yung pump sa house.
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    Quote Originally Posted by CVT View Post


    Bro.,- 1HP=746W- for simplicity.- let's put it at 1KW or 1KVA - so for every 1HP comprehending starting current (x3)- plan for 3KVA capacity.

    So, for your factor of safety for motors with huge starting current,- then your 22KVA can support 7HP total, probably more, but you can experiment and monitor, as this is on the very safe side... Lighting,- not much load so this is your extra 1KVA.....(22/3 = 7 remainder of 1)

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    Kung gusto mo sir na mamaximize ung 22kva genset mo sir palitan mo ac mo ng inverter type. 1:1 na ang computation nun at no starting current. Pero pagkakaalam ko ang starting current ng single phase equipment is similar lang the Full Load Ampere (FLA) sa 3phase lang ung times 3.

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    **sir boybi pala. Kung 22kva genset mo why dont you consider installing ats, may sensing line na ganyang kalaking genset sir. Auto on and auto off na iyan. Bilis pa ng ramp up nyan around 3seconds lang on the 4th may ilaw ka na. By the way, dapat ang connection from main breaker nahati sa dalawa pang sub main, isa para sa lighting at isa para sa outlet at equipment (pwde na to since single phase naman) tpos sanilalim ng sub breaker ng pang eq at outlet may breaker ka para sa motor, ac, ref and etc. Iba iba din breaker ng isang 20a circuit na 2gang outlet. Imho sa main mo na din ikabit ung line for genset for simplicity ikaw na lang magtimple manually ng load kung lalagpas pa sa 22kva ung bahay mo, pero sa tingin ko di mo na mamamaximize yan unles bubuhayin mo lahat at pati lahat ng outlet may nakasaksak na 20a load. Hehehehhe.

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    #90
    Quote Originally Posted by boybi View Post
    From the utility, same circuit lang yung water pump with the house.

    From the genset, mag kaiba ng phase yung pump sa house.
    sir boybi ano po bang brand and model ng genset nyo?

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