Amaron battery

**kenzie** · January 5th, 2014 02:01 PM

Originally Posted by crazy_boy

Si miko pinakamatagal hehe chiks kuha na tayo bukas haha nung first start ng Jimny kaninang umaga, 5.++ lang reading sa volt meter hehe nagseries ako ng 3SM hindi mastart parin for a couple of tries.

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Walandyo bro nahaawa ata pajero ko sa jimny mo paguwi ko kanina tinesting ko din start 1month hindi nagamit buong december ayun ayaw na magstart pinag uusapan palang naten ung syo wahaha

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**crazy_boy** · January 5th, 2014 02:08 PM

Haha may Pajero ka pala Ken. Yung FM ko kahit 6 weeks hindi nagamit, 1 click start parin.

Mukhang mahina na talaga charge nung sa Jimny.

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**kenzie** · January 5th, 2014 02:10 PM

Originally Posted by crazy_boy

Haha may Pajero ka pala Ken. Yung FM ko kahit 6 weeks hindi nagamit, 1 click start parin.

Mukhang mahina na talaga charge nung sa Jimny.

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Yes bro 97 local unit dati lage din ako nagtatanong syo sa pajero thread haha nalimot m na cguro

buy ka na battery ? San ka kuha ? 3SM din ata sa pajero tama ba ? mmya explore ko baka tampo na sken kse di ko na sya gamit madalas

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**crazy_boy** · January 5th, 2014 02:18 PM

3sm sa Pajero. Dapat sa Jawe sa banawe ako bibili kanina kaso sarado. Meron din amaron sa BHK along Aurora rear Cubao. Dapat nagpunta na ako doon kanina, nawala sa isip ko na meron amaron doon.

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**kenzie** · January 5th, 2014 04:00 PM

Originally Posted by crazy_boy

3sm sa Pajero. Dapat sa Jawe sa banawe ako bibili kanina kaso sarado. Meron din amaron sa BHK along Aurora rear Cubao. Dapat nagpunta na ako doon kanina, nawala sa isip ko na meron amaron doon.

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Ok bro update mo kami dito pls mukhang i need to change mine nadin papa diagnost ko lang bukas sa electrician sandali

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**miko101130** · January 5th, 2014 08:13 PM

2nd time nang na drain yung amaron ko...
first time completely na dead below 7 volts, nagloko kasi break pedal sensor, ayun magdamag naka ilaw preno...

2nd time 2 days ago, nasira diode ng turbo timer kaya nag parasitic drain, na drain uli battery, 9 volts natira, kahapon lang naayos turbo timer at charge uli battery....

both incidents ay nanghiram ako ng battery tapos nung nag start na pinalit ko yung amaron, so basically ver very quick charge, hahaha...

pag itong battery na ito tumagal ng more than two years saludo ako, dahil grabe yung parusa na inaabot...
dami accessories nakakabit, almost everyday usage, on-off scenario....

**tuazon7** · January 5th, 2014 08:18 PM

Originally Posted by miko101130

2nd time nang na drain yung amaron ko...
first time completely na dead below 7 volts, nagloko kasi break pedal sensor, ayun magdamag naka ilaw preno...

2nd time 2 days ago, nasira diode ng turbo timer kaya nag parasitic drain, na drain uli battery, 9 volts natira, kahapon lang naayos turbo timer at charge uli battery....

both incidents ay nanghiram ako ng battery tapos nung nag start na pinalit ko yung amaron, so basically ver very quick charge, hahaha...

pag itong battery na ito tumagal ng more than two years saludo ako, dahil grabe yung parusa na inaabot...
dami accessories nakakabit, almost everyday usage, on-off scenario....

sir ano brand ng turbo timer mo and pano nakita na yun diode ang sira? interested just in case

**miko101130** · January 5th, 2014 10:23 PM

Originally Posted by tuazon7

sir ano brand ng turbo timer mo and pano nakita na yun diode ang sira? interested just in case

comtec brand sir.. japan surplus, madalas naka-kabit sa mga nissan silvia..
model is: BETIME 125, full auto linear...

meh warp-up function (10min preset)
full auto time( calculates desired time based on usage)
manual ( min/sec selectable from 10sec to 10min)

i was able to determine na diode was the one that caused the parasitic drain( drained battery in just 2 hours), kasi i removed the BTN fuse sa fusebox. ayun nawala voltage drop, so inisa-isa ko lahat fuse sa kick panel, lahat wala consume ng wattage except one, yung sa ignition line, eh naka off naman engine, so silip ko sa ilalim nakita ko yung kinabit before na diode, sobrang init at halos di mahawakan at mapapaso ka, kaya sure na ako na yun sira, to confirm this, tinangal ko yung diode, let the car sit for 4 hours uli then started it.. walang drain na nangyari, eh diode lang tinangal ko from the previous set-up, kaya siya na for sure culprit.

nung unang install yung turbo timer, pinagawa ko sa electrician sa banawe...
ang problem is yung alarm ko na autopage, ay may doorlock open feature pag namatay engine.

pag off engine, mag start na countdown, lalabas ka na vehicle tapos lo-lock muna doors( alarm is armed), pag naubos na yung time sa turbo timer at nag off na engine, ma-sense ng alarm na nag off na ang ignition, mangyayari send siya signal sa door switch para bumukas.

para hindi bumukas door lock kahit naubos na countdown sa timer, there will be two approach...
1. put a diode sa ignition sense wire ng alarm
2. put two relays in tandem in order to basically cut the supply of the ignition sense wire of the alarm once turbo timer cuts supply of 12volts to the ignition line.

ang ginamit ng electrician before was the diode method.
pag meh diode it will only allow current to go/flow in just one side or one direction.parang check valve. para kahit mamatay ang ignition after countdown hindi ito ma-sense ni alarm.

ang problem diodes tend to die randomly without warning, pag nasira si diode chances are mag consume ng power kahit hindi dapat, kasi naka tap sa ignition line.

what i did was do the second option above ako na mismo ang gumawa ng wiring set-up. magulo mag wiring mga taga banawe eh. placed two relays in tandem to de-couple the supply of the ignition line where the alarm senses whether ignition is off or once the turbo timer starts its countdown...

lines tapped from OEm harness
12v constant supply
white thick wire ( ignition wire before the key switch)
ignition sense wire after key switch ( black with red stripe)

pag ganito no need ng diode, at hindi mag open ang door lock kahit matapos ang countdown at mag off ang engine.
kaya walang pwede masira ng mag drain ng power. ayoko na kasi maulit na ma-drain battery dahil sa sirang diode.

**tuazon7** · January 6th, 2014 10:45 AM

Originally Posted by miko101130

comtec brand sir.. japan surplus, madalas naka-kabit sa mga nissan silvia..
model is: BETIME 125, full auto linear...

meh warp-up function (10min preset)
full auto time( calculates desired time based on usage)
manual ( min/sec selectable from 10sec to 10min)

i was able to determine na diode was the one that caused the parasitic drain( drained battery in just 2 hours), kasi i removed the BTN fuse sa fusebox. ayun nawala voltage drop, so inisa-isa ko lahat fuse sa kick panel, lahat wala consume ng wattage except one, yung sa ignition line, eh naka off naman engine, so silip ko sa ilalim nakita ko yung kinabit before na diode, sobrang init at halos di mahawakan at mapapaso ka, kaya sure na ako na yun sira, to confirm this, tinangal ko yung diode, let the car sit for 4 hours uli then started it.. walang drain na nangyari, eh diode lang tinangal ko from the previous set-up, kaya siya na for sure culprit.

nung unang install yung turbo timer, pinagawa ko sa electrician sa banawe...
ang problem is yung alarm ko na autopage, ay may doorlock open feature pag namatay engine.

pag off engine, mag start na countdown, lalabas ka na vehicle tapos lo-lock muna doors( alarm is armed), pag naubos na yung time sa turbo timer at nag off na engine, ma-sense ng alarm na nag off na ang ignition, mangyayari send siya signal sa door switch para bumukas.

para hindi bumukas door lock kahit naubos na countdown sa timer, there will be two approach...
1. put a diode sa ignition sense wire ng alarm
2. put two relays in tandem in order to basically cut the supply of the ignition sense wire of the alarm once turbo timer cuts supply of 12volts to the ignition line.

ang ginamit ng electrician before was the diode method.
pag meh diode it will only allow current to go/flow in just one side or one direction.parang check valve. para kahit mamatay ang ignition after countdown hindi ito ma-sense ni alarm.

ang problem diodes tend to die randomly without warning, pag nasira si diode chances are mag consume ng power kahit hindi dapat, kasi naka tap sa ignition line.

what i did was do the second option above ako na mismo ang gumawa ng wiring set-up. magulo mag wiring mga taga banawe eh. placed two relays in tandem to de-couple the supply of the ignition line where the alarm senses whether ignition is off or once the turbo timer starts its countdown...

lines tapped from OEm harness
12v constant supply
white thick wire ( ignition wire before the key switch)
ignition sense wire after key switch ( black with red stripe)

pag ganito no need ng diode, at hindi mag open ang door lock kahit matapos ang countdown at mag off ang engine.
kaya walang pwede masira ng mag drain ng power. ayoko na kasi maulit na ma-drain battery dahil sa sirang diode.

thanks for the info sir...