Garmins GPS Vs A.V.T Gps

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I am quite happy with the AVT GPS. I could have save money using a garmin together with the roadguide map but I just didn't have the patience to contribute to roadguide to be able to get the contributor's map.

[bentaserbisyo]

I'm sure if he used the gps readily, he will be routed to that broken bridge. Why? Because you don't have an updated map. Can you boldly tell that you have taken out that bridge from your map as roadguide has done. Even your supposed "updating" is suspect. Fact is, there are hundreds of volunteer contributors that regularly updates the maps from OSM and roadguide and yet their maps are far from perfect. Unless you have at your disposal the same number of volunteers, then I can't see how you can "update" your map.



Well, you're assuming that the unit will breakdown and you're padding your price under the guise of warranty. But with your price of more than twice of what I can buy abroad, I can buy another new unit if it breaks down with some change to spare. So why the need for warranty from you?

And I do feel sorry for those people in your gallery. If only they have known that there is a better option for them.



Turns out there are optional ways to get contributor status in roadguide.ph aside from plotting actual tracks and waypoints. Fact is, there are contributors there that gained their status while they were still abroad. If you don't believe me, see this...http://roadguide.ph/forums/showthread.php?t=22. You get what I mean?



Who's "kami"? Fact is you're using OSM and roadguide map as you admitted in the other thread. Maps that were developed by volunteers to be used for free and which you modify and use in your business of which I'm sure is without written permission from their developers. And don't claim to be developing other country's map. You can't even make a decent Philippine map of your own. Your South East Asia map is a combination of free and cracked maps. Don't deny it. The same thing that you combine OSM and roadguide map for your business.

As you said:

Turns out there are optional ways to get contributor status in roadguide.ph aside from plotting actual tracks and waypoints. Fact is, there are contributors there that gained their status while they were still abroad. If you don't believe me, see this...http://roadguide.ph/forums/showthread.php?t=22. You get what I mean?


For Me:

Hindi pinahihintulutan ng Google yan, even the member told it on the thread

You say: (my answer will be in blue para hindi ubos space)

Who's "kami"? Fact is you're using OSM and roadguide map as you admitted in the other thread. Maps that were developed by volunteers to be used for free and which you modify and use in your business of which I'm sure is without written permission from their developers.(Yes as long you have read and fully understand their cc license that they permit it as long as you give credits to them) And don't claim to be developing other country's map. You can't even make a decent Philippine map of your own. ikaw ba kaya mo? to judge other people like that? do you know what is coordinates? and what mapping software you should use, do you know? do you know how much is it?(check my screenshots below, it's not just a picture, but a full functioning one) Your South East Asia map is a combination of free and cracked maps.(well saan galing?) Don't deny it. The same thing that you combine OSM and roadguide map for your business (so you mean you know how to do that boss ferrarifan? ano ba ginagamit na program para doon? hehehehehe)

Gusto mo proofs ko, well ito po para matahimik ka:










Anyway hindi ako sumali sa forum na ito para makipag away kahit kanino, our intention is to sell in a manner way that we thought could help our fellow tsikoteers, ikaw may naitulong ka na ba? kung wala pa, get started doing so...

[ferrarifan]

As you said:

Turns out there are optional ways to get contributor status in roadguide.ph aside from plotting actual tracks and waypoints. Fact is, there are contributors there that gained their status while they were still abroad. If you don't believe me, see this...http://roadguide.ph/forums/showthread.php?t=22. You get what I mean?


For Me:

Hindi pinahihintulutan ng Google yan, even the member told it on the thread

You say: (my answer will be in blue para hindi ubos space)

Who's "kami"? Fact is you're using OSM and roadguide map as you admitted in the other thread. Maps that were developed by volunteers to be used for free and which you modify and use in your business of which I'm sure is without written permission from their developers.(Yes as long you have read and fully understand their cc license that they permit it as long as you give credits to them) And don't claim to be developing other country's map. You can't even make a decent Philippine map of your own. ikaw ba kaya mo? to judge other people like that? do you know what is coordinates? and what mapping software you should use, do you know? do you know how much is it?(check my screenshots below, it's not just a picture, but a full functioning one) Your South East Asia map is a combination of free and cracked maps.(well saan galing?) Don't deny it. The same thing that you combine OSM and roadguide map for your business (so you mean you know how to do that boss ferrarifan? ano ba ginagamit na program para doon? hehehehehe)

Gusto mo proofs ko, well ito po para matahimik ka:










Anyway hindi ako sumali sa forum na ito para makipag away kahit kanino, our intention is to sell in a manner way that we thought could help our fellow tsikoteers, ikaw may naitulong ka na ba? kung wala pa, get started doing so...

Fact 1: You're selling hugely overpriced Garmins
Fact 2: You're using cracked maps and freely available maps to justify your price
Fact 3: You can't make your own map. You simply don't have the resources to produce your own map. And don't post screenshots of a few POIs located near and around you place. It doesn't mean anything at all in terms of having an updated map.
Fact 4: Don't claim to be helping tsikoteers by selling them overpriced devices. You're duping them. There are better options for them.
Fact 5: I don't claim and will not in any way claim to know how to make a gps map. But I contribute data to gps mapping and not looking for any financial return.
Fact 6: There is no mention of acknowledgment of where your maps came from in your website. How can you claim that you legally use them? And to prove that you're not following copyright rules, read this....http://roadguide.ph/forums/announcement.php?f=26. You simply cannot use the map without written permission (at least the roadguide map).
Fact 7: I do not answer your post to make a fight. I'm just stating the facts to enlighten future gps buyers. If you feel insulted by my comments, so be it. It's probably deserved.

And on the question of having done anything to help fellow tsikoteers, well for sure I have helped them....by exposing sellers of hugely overpriced Garmin gps with cracked maps in them.

[oj88]

Saw the prices also and damn! What a rip off.

Also, he's advertising a high-end GPS (ie. Nuvi 1690) and listing features that's unusable in the Philippines.

Buyers should definitely be educated that there are cheaper alternatives to that... and with a better source of map to boot.

[Habagat_88]

As you said:

Turns out there are optional ways to get contributor status in roadguide.ph aside from plotting actual tracks and waypoints. Fact is, there are contributors there that gained their status while they were still abroad. If you don't believe me, see this...http://roadguide.ph/forums/showthread.php?t=22. You get what I mean?


For Me:

Hindi pinahihintulutan ng Google yan, even the member told it on the thread

You say: (my answer will be in blue para hindi ubos space)

Who's "kami"? Fact is you're using OSM and roadguide map as you admitted in the other thread. Maps that were developed by volunteers to be used for free and which you modify and use in your business of which I'm sure is without written permission from their developers.(Yes as long you have read and fully understand their cc license that they permit it as long as you give credits to them) And don't claim to be developing other country's map. You can't even make a decent Philippine map of your own. ikaw ba kaya mo? to judge other people like that? do you know what is coordinates? and what mapping software you should use, do you know? do you know how much is it?(check my screenshots below, it's not just a picture, but a full functioning one) Your South East Asia map is a combination of free and cracked maps.(well saan galing?) Don't deny it. The same thing that you combine OSM and roadguide map for your business (so you mean you know how to do that boss ferrarifan? ano ba ginagamit na program para doon? hehehehehe)

Gusto mo proofs ko, well ito po para matahimik ka:




Anyway hindi ako sumali sa forum na ito para makipag away kahit kanino, our intention is to sell in a manner way that we thought could help our fellow tsikoteers, ikaw may naitulong ka na ba? kung wala pa, get started doing so...

From the looks of the screenshots sa sinabi mong "map" mo sa Valenzuela area, hindi siya from OSM Philippines. At siguradong-sigurado ako na yung map ng yan galing sa roadguide at eto yung standard map nila na ginamit mo. Dinagdagan mo lang ng mga additional establishments sa bandang street na yan. Marunong ka ngang gumawa ng mapa pero pinipirata mo naman yung map na yan sa roadguide ng walang pahintulot. Tapos konting dagdag dito, dagdag dun, eh sasabihin mo na na ikaw yung gumawa ng mapa? Na ikaw yung nag-update ng mapa? Just because nakakuha ka ng gpsmapedit, mapsettoolkit o gmaptool eh yabang yabang mo na, sasabihin mo na na mapper ka rin kahit ninakaw mo yung data? Trabaho at pawis ng iba ginawa mong puhunan sa negosyo mo, wag naman ganyan 'tol. Please give credit where credit is due baka ma-karma ka dyan.

At sa mga gustong bumili ng gps, bumili kayo sa labas. Puede din online, at pa ship nyo dito. Kahit dalawang gps pa bilhin nyo, mas mura pa rin yan suma total compara sa presyo ng gps na binibenta dito. kung masira man yung isa, may isa ka pang natira, yun ang warranty mo. At punta kayo sa roadguide.ph, libre ang Philippine map dun, or sa OSM Philippines, libre rin... sana makatulong

[rensom]

[SIZE=5]My Garmin Nuvi 205 W is only 8,500 pesos.[/SIZE]

Dati di ako believe sa Road guide na yan.....pero ng nag karoon ako ng unit w/ roadguide map na yan... na gandahan talaga ako.. imagine pati yung mga u-turn slot?... may warning... at na-appreciate ang mga taong nag-hirap sa map na yan.... kaya ngayon nagpapadala na rin ako ng data... pag nakita kong wala sa map nila......

Ang napansin ko lang bakit di nag-ffloat sa screen yung mga establishment na nadadaanan niya... let say kahit nasa tapat kana ng SM mega di siya lumalabas o nag ffloat sa screen ... dapat kailangan mo pa na ilagay sa favorite yung POI pra lang mag-float sa screen.... PERO kung mag-bbrowse ka sa map.... ayun kita mo lahat ng POI na naka-program.

Eto yung ibang Screenshot:

[ferrarifan]

[SIZE=5]My Garmin Nuvi 205 W is only 8,500 pesos.[/SIZE]

Dati di ako believe sa Road guide na yan.....pero ng nag karoon ako ng unit w/ roadguide map na yan... na gandahan talaga ako.. imagine pati yung mga u-turn slot?... may warning... at na-appreciate ang mga taong nag-hirap sa map na yan.... kaya ngayon nagpapadala na rin ako ng data... pag nakita kong wala sa map nila......

Ang napansin ko lang bakit di nag-ffloat sa screen yung mga establishment na nadadaanan niya... let say kahit nasa tapat kana ng SM mega di siya lumalabas o nag ffloat sa screen ... dapat kailangan mo pa na ilagay sa favorite yung POI pra lang mag-float sa screen.... PERO kung mag-bbrowse ka sa map.... ayun kita mo lahat ng POI na naka-program.

Eto yung ibang Screenshot:

Hardware limitation. Most Nuvis do not display POIs when navigating.

[oj88]

As I heard it, POIs are not shown in 3D mode to reduce clutter and to also speedup screen refresh.

[woohoo]

Hardware limitation. Most Nuvis do not display POIs when navigating.

As I heard it, POIs are not shown in 3D mode to reduce clutter and to also speedup screen refresh.

When navigating, my Nuvi 255W doesn't show POI's, whether set in 3D, Track Up, or North Up.

Oh well, at least it doesn't hang like Mobile XT (when browsing the map).

[SIZE=1]49/3,716[/SIZE]

[roninxt]

Yung mga one way sa Makati outdated na sa map ng roadguide.