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    #1501
    Siento,

    You can't bypass the DAC of the head unit as long as it is analog. For example, we have a Pioneer 80PRS and a Alpine H800 processor. The chain is Pioneer 80PRS -> Alpine H800 -> Amplifiers -> Speakers. But since it's analog connection or via RCA plugs, the source is still modified/affected by the Pioneer's DAC. Only way you can bypass the Pioneer's DAC is if the signal is purely digital like from binary CD data (0s and 1s) directly out of a digital output (SPDIF/digital coaxial).1

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    #1502
    I am actually assuiming that the headunit of the swft has an optical out, like mine. Also, if the signal that passes through coming from the HU goes analog and then passes through the DAC of the processor. The processor's DAC will prevail.

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    #1503
    Quote Originally Posted by ninjababez View Post
    passive ba yan processor bro?
    DSP idol. Like our AVRs when we use a BD/DVD/media player, it has it's own DAC and it goes through our AVR. Yun lang, difference with external processors sa kotse, it does not have a pass-through option.

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    #1504
    Quote Originally Posted by jhnkvn View Post
    Siento,

    You can't bypass the DAC of the head unit as long as it is analog. For example, we have a Pioneer 80PRS and a Alpine H800 processor. The chain is Pioneer 80PRS -> Alpine H800 -> Amplifiers -> Speakers. But since it's analog connection or via RCA plugs, the source is still modified/affected by the Pioneer's DAC. Only way you can bypass the Pioneer's DAC is if the signal is purely digital like from binary CD data (0s and 1s) directly out of a digital output (SPDIF/digital coaxial).1
    So hindi po advisable mag stock HU>DSP>amplifier na setup? Plan ko sana to install a processor in the future dahil limited lang capabilities ng HU ko and ayaw ko rin palitan HU ko dahil sa TPMS, GPS and etc na mga features.

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    #1505
    Quote Originally Posted by sientobente View Post
    DSP idol. Like our AVRs when we use a BD/DVD/media player, it has it's own DAC and it goes through our AVR. Yun lang, difference with external processors sa kotse, it does not have a pass-through option.
    Quote Originally Posted by sientobente View Post
    I am actually assuiming that the headunit of the swft has an optical out, like mine. Also, if the signal that passes through coming from the HU goes analog and then passes through the DAC of the processor. The processor's DAC will prevail.
    ah ganun pala yun hehehe
    mas madali pa yata sa ht kasi walang mavoid na warranty hehehe

    btw mga bros sa experience nyo ba after a year of use na OK ang electricals ng auto, is it safe to say na OK na sya imod to upgrade the sound setup?

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    #1506
    If you will have it installed from a reputable and reliable shop, i dont see anything to worry about. First thing i do with a new car is modify electricals (sound set up, lights, etc.) and i haven't had any issues so far (3 cars na so far).

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    #1507
    Quote Originally Posted by D3nb3r View Post
    So hindi po advisable mag stock HU>DSP>amplifier na setup? Plan ko sana to install a processor in the future dahil limited lang capabilities ng HU ko and ayaw ko rin palitan HU ko dahil sa TPMS, GPS and etc na mga features.
    Depends on the head unit, but take note that a lot of stock head units has filters built into it. Unless you have a way in bypassing the filters, you'll get sub-optimal sound.

    Still, the term is "sub-optimal", for many.. the inclusion of a processor and tuning is still a leap ahead.

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    #1508
    Quote Originally Posted by D3nb3r View Post
    So hindi po advisable mag stock HU>DSP>amplifier na setup? Plan ko sana to install a processor in the future dahil limited lang capabilities ng HU ko and ayaw ko rin palitan HU ko dahil sa TPMS, GPS and etc na mga features.
    Depends on the head unit, but take note that a lot of stock head units has filters built into it. Unless you have a way in bypassing the filters, you'll get sub-optimal sound.

    Still, the term is "sub-optimal", for many.. the inclusion of a processor and tuning is still a leap ahead.

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    #1509
    Audison processors have a De-Equalization feature. I think that is an important tool for HU's with unwanted filters.

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    #1510
    Quote Originally Posted by ninjababez View Post
    ah ganun pala yun hehehe
    mas madali pa yata sa ht kasi walang mavoid na warranty hehehe

    btw mga bros sa experience nyo ba after a year of use na OK ang electricals ng auto, is it safe to say na OK na sya imod to upgrade the sound setup?
    When I got my new car, it only took me 3 weeks to see if anything is failing. Afterwards, I started modding the sound system. Didn't have an ounce of regret. Happy with the sound setup. Kaya upgrade na natin yan idol

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