Detailing Thread [For Newbies][continued]

**rico_g** · October 2nd, 2010 10:53 AM

Originally Posted by Jayson23

Hi po. Newbie here when it comes to detailing. Naghahanap kasi ako ng polishing machine na ROP. I saw this sa Hans Tools Shang and it costs 5.2K. Skil and brand. Ok po ba it?

http://www.skil.com.my/skil/l0/produ...p?gpid=11&pid=

I don't think this is an ROP (Random Orbital Polisher)... this is a Rotary/ Circular polisher... the difference is an ROP simulates the fast circular motion of your hand (thus, random orbit), while rotary spins on a central pivot.

Since you mentioned your a newbie... I would not recommend that you use a rotary on your car... Rotaries can burn paint when not used by a pro/experienced detailer..

If your budget is within the price you posted, and you want to get a machine locally/ over the counter, you may check out the B&D KP600 applicator for around 3k, or the Bosch Unano (forgot the model #) for around 5k...

The KP600 is great for applying wax but not for corrections...

the Bosch, on the other hand, has way too much power and a requires a little know how to use.

I'm planning to get the infamous PorterCable RO (best for amateur detailers) abroad, some time in December (or earlier, depending on the itch of my idol detailers here), with some guys here. We're thinking of getting one bulk order so we get to save on shipping... You may join the bandwagon if ever...

*watusi/ginnova/ SG ... kung gusto nyo mag-order ng mas-maaga sa December, let me know... so we can talk about the preferred mode of shipping... I thought December coz i know most of us is waiting for that bonus... but should you guys want it earlier, I can always sell my kidney!!!

**Louie_18** · October 2nd, 2010 10:59 AM

Guys kaya ba Megs Deep Crystal Paint cleaner to or swirlX na? Thanks...

**en3rgy** · October 2nd, 2010 11:06 AM

Ang sarap naman basahin ng thread na to. Daming matutunan.

Suggestion lang po regarding ordering abroad. Kung airfreight po, medyo mahal po ang delivery charge. Lalo na kung bulk (kasi mabigat) at sa AG kayo oorder. East coast po kasi ang address nila.

Kung seafreight naman, walang weight limit, pero medyo matagal. Aabutin ng mga 4 to 5 weeks. Maganda pa kung balikbayan box, wala ng tax. One time charge lang. Kaya kung oorder kayo, gawin nyo by mid-November para dumating in time for Christmas.

**rico_g** · October 2nd, 2010 11:22 AM

I was checking out other local detailing threads and saw a newbie asking about QD application...

There was a suggestion, that after rinsing the car, before drying... to spray a thin layer of QD on the section you are about to dry, then wipe it dry.

Is this a good practice?

**Ginnova** · October 2nd, 2010 11:26 AM

Originally Posted by Louie_18

Guys kaya ba Megs Deep Crystal Paint cleaner to or swirlX na? Thanks...

Swirlx can remove those easily.problem is medyo mahirap i-apply by hand. technique is to apply on a very small area only. sample for the hood, divide it by 12 sections.then work 1 section at a time.start it with light rotations 1st then medium then finish with light rotations. for the whole Innova, it took me 1 day to finish but that's about 3 years of accumulated swirls. you need to practice also procedures of how to prevent inducing swirls else it would be no point of removing them

**en3rgy** · October 2nd, 2010 11:30 AM

Originally Posted by rico_g

I was checking out other local detailing threads and saw a newbie asking about QD application...

There was a suggestion, that after rinsing the car, before drying... to spray a thin layer of QD on the section you are about to dry, then wipe it dry.

Is this a good practice?

Tingin ko po sayang lang yung QD. Kasi kung clay yung next stage, QD pa din yung gagamitin diba. Opinion lang.

**Ginnova** · October 2nd, 2010 11:54 AM

Originally Posted by rico_g

I don't think this is an ROP (Random Orbital Polisher)... this is a Rotary/ Circular polisher... the difference is an ROP simulates the fast circular motion of your hand (thus, random orbit), while rotary spins on a central pivot.

Since you mentioned your a newbie... I would not recommend that you use a rotary on your car... Rotaries can burn paint when not used by a pro/experienced detailer..

If your budget is within the price you posted, and you want to get a machine locally/ over the counter, you may check out the B&D KP600 applicator for around 3k, or the Bosch Unano (forgot the model #) for around 5k...

The KP600 is great for applying wax but not for corrections...

the Bosch, on the other hand, has way too much power and a requires a little know how to use.

I'm planning to get the infamous PorterCable RO (best for amateur detailers) abroad, some time in December (or earlier, depending on the itch of my idol detailers here), with some guys here. We're thinking of getting one bulk order so we get to save on shipping... You may join the bandwagon if ever...

*watusi/ginnova/ SG ... kung gusto nyo mag-order ng mas-maaga sa December, let me know... so we can talk about the preferred mode of shipping... I thought December coz i know most of us is waiting for that bonus... but should you guys want it earlier, I can always sell my kidney!!!

*Rico , I'm starting to save for that PorterCable. sabihan kita kung may bugdet na para sabay tayo order.

**jmpet626** · October 2nd, 2010 12:39 PM

Originally Posted by rico_g

I don't think this is an ROP (Random Orbital Polisher)... this is a Rotary/ Circular polisher... the difference is an ROP simulates the fast circular motion of your hand (thus, random orbit), while rotary spins on a central pivot.

Since you mentioned your a newbie... I would not recommend that you use a rotary on your car... Rotaries can burn paint when not used by a pro/experienced detailer..

If your budget is within the price you posted, and you want to get a machine locally/ over the counter, you may check out the B&D KP600 applicator for around 3k, or the Bosch Unano (forgot the model #) for around 5k...

The KP600 is great for applying wax but not for corrections...

the Bosch, on the other hand, has way too much power and a requires a little know how to use.

I'm planning to get the infamous PorterCable RO (best for amateur detailers) abroad, some time in December (or earlier, depending on the itch of my idol detailers here), with some guys here. We're thinking of getting one bulk order so we get to save on shipping... You may join the bandwagon if ever...

*watusi/ginnova/ SG ... kung gusto nyo mag-order ng mas-maaga sa December, let me know... so we can talk about the preferred mode of shipping... I thought December coz i know most of us is waiting for that bonus... but should you guys want it earlier, I can always sell my kidney!!!

Mas ok sana bumili ng PC ngayon before oct 31. May 20$ off kasi na coupon code. Use AGBUCKS pag nag check out kayo para yung cheapest package ng PC na 169$ magiging 149 na lang. Abang na lang kayo ng free shipping usualy meron nyan 1pm to 4pm eastern time sa US. Sulit na yan kasi bihira lang sila mag bigay ng coupon code na kasama mga polishers. Yung mga 10 to 15% off nila hindi kasama mga polishers

**rico_g** · October 2nd, 2010 07:22 PM

Originally Posted by en3rgy

Tingin ko po sayang lang yung QD. Kasi kung clay yung next stage, QD pa din yung gagamitin diba. Opinion lang.

Talking about using QD after regular washing... when we use QD to boost the wax or add another layer of protection as a last step... sorry idol kung di clear

I did some research and it seems that it IS an actual practice... the mentioned that the QD lep removive friction from the drying towel when drying one's car...

here's the link to a forum I read...

http://bbs.scoobynet.com/car-care-38...le-drying.html

here's some excerpts from OGE/OID found in autogeek:

Optimum suggests using the Optimum Instant Detailer & Gloss Enhancer in conjunction with Optimum No Rinse Wash & Shine. Use No Rinse as usual but, before you dry the vehicle, spray on some Optimum Instant Detailer. It will create a super slick, incredibly glossy finish.

After washing the car with Optimum Car Wash, spray your vehicle with Instant Detailer as you towel dry each panel. Optimum Instant Detailer & Gloss Enhancer can be used on wet or dry surfaces.

Mga Idol, what do you think of this practice? Parang sayang nga ung QD, plus, if the QD is hydrophobic (like Megs QD), I can't see how the QD will blend well with water...

**Hardinero** · October 2nd, 2010 11:08 PM

Originally Posted by madkatz

there are some good spray sealants out there, Opti-seal, Ultimate Paint Sealant, Ultima Paint Guard Plus, Jeff werkstat Acrylic Jett Trigger and a whole lot more

But when you mentioned how you wanted to use it, its gonna quite pointless to put it on top of a wax because it won't stick because of the wax, BTW i don't like Sonus products that much they dont have that much durability

don't turn car detailing into rocket science ok, i know i might sound the part but hey if your car needs protection then wax it, don't beat around the bush, just do what needs to be done and no shortcuts, its either you're 100% into detailing or not, so if you are into detailing then do what has to be done, wash apply wax, don't over think it, enjoy it!

Originally Posted by madkatz

yup, i have my eyes on this one, its supposed to be a cheaper and a little lower version of UQW

san ko ba nabasa na sabi eh spray sealant ito....pero from the name spray wax siya....

Meguiars Synthetic X-press™ Spray Wax can be applied in direct sunlight <<<--- eto ang nagustuhan ko dito...any comment on this comrades..

*madkatz ms, tama ba intindi ko spray wax ito judging from the name...

with regards, to spray sealant parang ok siya since mas mabilis i-apply...how about naman yung durability kaya nito same din kaya nung sealant na applied using yung pad..

or sealant booster lang din..i guess yung spray sealant...