Tsikot.ph PHUV Prototype

[jamesvhong]

Lurker mode...

[safeorigin]

o nag paramdam si mister pasimuno ng lahat ng problema sa PhUV Autodesign thread!!!{grabe ang haba ng sinabi ko}

anyways, pwede ko ba isali ung anak ko?


























in the future?

[OyiL]

kulang ako sa concentration, sa focus

[ehnriko]

Hi everyone... it's very rare - next to impossible for me to have internet access... I am taking this chance to reply to this thread - di ko kasi kayang i-contain and feelings ko with regards to the recently launched PhUV.

I would like to begin with this statement...

Car Designers are the equivalent of Pitoy Moreno or Inno Sotto in the
Apparel Fashion Industry - they are not exactly the people who are influenced with technical details as to how to saw their concept apparels or clothings... they have a team who translate their concepts into reality... but - their concepts are worth more than the material itself since these concepts are the elements that determine the bottom line - i.e. - Sales!

Sa atin sa PInas - masabing may background ka ng Mechanical Engineering, Industrial Engineering, Architecture (please wag magagalit ang masasagasaan - no offense meant) eh pwede nang maging AUV Designer. If we really respect the Filipinos... we would never allow such any disrespect on the aesthetics of his mobility... since his Mobility is his Nobility.

Parang binastos ang Pilipino sa PhUV design na yan. What I see is a GLORIFIED AUV with a Trying Hard Personality... pretty much reflects the personality or company culture of the people behind. Walang symmetry. Ang tanging maganda lang ay ang Paint Job. First Impressions lasts... I was right. The first time I heard they are launching an AUV (PhUV) - I predicted it would look like the Ford Fierra... The headlights does not match... the grill is oversized - trying to catch up with the body lines. The Center of Gravity is high but the concealed running boards is telling everyone - that this vehicle is trying to make itself believe it has character. I am really dissappointed.

ang lalaking tao pa naman ang nasa likod ng MVPMAP... matitigas pa nga mga leeg eh.. Sad to say - they will still rule the Philippine Industry - one way or another... OK lang naman yun eh - pero sana - pag igihan naman nila. If you love the Philipinos... bigyan niyo naman ng konting kahihiyan and producto na para kay Juan Dela Cruz!

Last 1989 - when I applied for Volvo as a Car Desaigner after being frustrated with MAX 95 for stealing 3 of my entries and sharing it with Lexus/Toyota and Proton - They almost hired me - but when they asked what is my specialty - Technical or the Artistic side which I will call (Tactical)... I told them - I can't make a choice. They told me to just start a Car Company of my own in the Philippines... I was angry at them - but I soon realized they were right. Hindi pwedeng mag design ang isang tao if he is influenced with Technical Concerns... I found this out myself. The PhUV is actually a fine example of what I realized 10 years ago while making some personal projects.

I am pretty sure that the PhUV of MVPMAP is a creation of Engineers trying hard to be designers. With that kind of a presentation package - I am really convinced matatagalan pa ang Pinas para maging isang player na seseriosohin sa Auto Industry per se.

What we need is a miracle to cure the sick value system of our industry leaders. Before the Car Development Program of Cory - I made a Feasbility Study on Automobile Manufacturing Industry in the Philippines - it is still in the last College I enrolled years ago 1989 I think... everybody thought it was that simple - I ommitted the aspect - we would still be needing a good design and the designer and his team.

anyway - since my elementary and high school days - all my research studies were about History of the automobile and my hobby was collecting cars for the purpose of studying their design philosophies... Talking about Design Phillosophy... what is the Philosophy behind the PhUV?

I hope we are not making ourselves believe that it is really good because it is ours. As my father always say "Walang kamganak kamaganak - basta ang pinakamagaling yung anak ko!"

I hope this helps in our effort to enlighten the potentially good automotive culture of the Pinoys.

I cant say I am proud to be Pinoy with the rate were going... but I still dream of seeing the light of day when I can be one.

Guys - I wont be able to post here again for until after 1 or 2 months siguro - but I will be able to read this thread. If I have offended anyone - please dont be - just consider this as something to think about... and act upon later.

MABUHAY ang PILIPINO!

[straker]

Oyil, here's what I owe you. First time to upload a pic... I hope my doodles are understandable.

My dad used to say to me when I finally get to drive....if you got a flat, FIX IT FAST! You'll never know what sort of characters that will come to you.

The assembly operates in the same way as our kid's stroller-type bag. Instead of a bag, its the wheel.

As many of us here are against putting the wheel on the door, I still stayed on, this time the wheel housing is mounted into the UV's interior. I didn't include the shell so the mechanism can be seen.

The spare will be accessible ONLY if the rear door is open, and that you pressed on its latches (or locks) to release it. We have a double-level protection from tire-stealing thieves.

The moving part of the support rods could have tiny rollers on its side to minimize scratching on the door's metal shell.

Kung pwede pa, to prevent the wheel to fall by its weight when the locks are released, the rods are equipped with shock absorbers, similar to door closers.

A spare and dirty wheel is always an offensive sight, just add a metal or plastic shell, further refined, in line with the PHUV's interior.

if the rear door isn't the place to be, the traditional underchassy mount will do. The assy is fastened on the floor, if I think right.

[donbuggy]

The spare will be accessible ONLY if the rear door is open, and that you pressed on its latches (or locks) to release it.

A much simpler solution...

[OyiL]

*Don

i think straker's primary reason for his suggestion, is the inclusion of a mechanism that will make it easier to move the spare tire from the holder to the pavement. para sa mga ladies daw yun.

[drey]

well i think strakers idea can be done like this...

[architect]

Very innovative but the locks need to be sturdy. You don't want the tire to come loose when the vehicle hits a pothole or a hump. Of course you won't have this problem if the tire well is located in the interior side. But then the tire well will eat into cabin/storage space.

Also you need to think of alternate locations for the jeepney and pick-up configurations.

[donbuggy]

But how will a lady push the whole thing up after changing the tires?

Alternative: use a lever. Simple and lesser number of parts.