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June 12th, 2007 10:29 AM #651
So that's what it looks like. I'll wait after the unveiling to get the full picture then I'll post my comments about its design.
Maybe the discussion about the MVPMAP PhUV should be in a new thread.
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June 12th, 2007 12:33 PM #653
Worth watching...
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=2vM2psKlvT0&NR=1
John DeLorean was ahead of his time, but his tech advances were simple and practical; bolt on body panels, the use of stainless steel and fiberglass, etc.
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June 12th, 2007 04:02 PM #654there are filipino companies that are making good overseas,i believe the filipino automotive industry can....
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June 12th, 2007 08:28 PM #655http://drivebyshooter.net/
the looks of the Phuv is near but not yet there. something about its design that makes it look like the parts and looks was not done by a single design theme, but more like a what fits type of approach
over all it looks ok
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June 12th, 2007 11:46 PM #657
Wow, are those aluminum window cross braces?
Lets admit it, while it leaves much to be desired, it's a START. I'm sure that the tsikot phuv prototype participants can come up with something better, esp. now that the mvpmap proto has paved the way. We learn from DOING, ika nga.
Hein, you've proven your point, but do you have anything constructive to add regarding our production capabilities? So it seems that sheet metal fabrication isn't our strongest suit, has anyone considered other molded materials? The first Saturns here in the USA had mostly fiberglass body panels. Also, do we have alternatives when it comes to other materials?
I'm going to chime in with my limited production experience here, as I am basically already doing what you guys are trying to do, albeit with a different product. I make airguns that are competetive in the world market, they are very different from your run-of-the-mill locally produced airguns in that we use quality imported materials like T6 aluminum, carbon fiber, etc, and use western technology to make them perform better. I've noticed that these materials are prohibively expensive when sourced in the Philippines, but they are 10x cheaper when bought in the USA or other countries. What makes them expensive is the ridiculous taxation schemes that are imposed by the govt. I believe that if you have govt support, you can source materials from other countries that will make the production of a viable Phuv cheaper with better materials. We just have to accept that some things are just made better elsewhere, like aluminum, steel, etc. Our limited 3rd world production capabilities actually make these materials more expensive (and sometimes inferior). Since mass production drives costs DOWN, maybe we should look at industries in other countries that can do it better and import materials from them (china is one..).
I know it can be done because even with all my imported materials, I'm priced even lower than my competition who use all locally sourced materials.
Just my 2 cents...I don't pretend to know much about automotive fabrication, my forte is marketing. If you build it, I know I can sell it.
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June 13th, 2007 12:00 AM #658
i soft deleted some of the pics of phuv here, ill create a dedicated feedback thread for mvpmap phuv. just to avoid confusion, this thread is for tsikot phuv prototype
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June 13th, 2007 12:04 AM #659I agree with you ogpro.
Some people can only criticize, but don't really do anything. Crab mentality.
Excited ipagkalat ang mga kasiraan but refuse to see the positive points.
Sad.
I was at the launch and I was so proud. A collection of Pinoy pride advocates were there. Patis Tesoro, Ms. Earth, Manila's 5 loveliest and Paolo Santos to name a few.
I applaud MVPMAP. At least they didn't waste their time looking for faults. Instead they did something.Last edited by dprox; June 13th, 2007 at 01:34 AM.
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June 13th, 2007 12:06 AM #660
ito na po, Tsikoteers official feedback thread for MVPMAP's PhUV
http://tsikot.yehey.com/forums/showt...724#post832724
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