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    #671
    Well, don't mince words, point out those you think aren't being constructive.

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    Quote Originally Posted by ogpro View Post

    To OYIL, dude, I love your sketches and how they help me visualize this project, but once again, those designs would involve production systems that would make costs prohibitive. Might I request some sketches that look a bit more realistic? Those giant 22 inch wheels look great on hummers, but they cost about 20grand EACH.
    [SIZE=4]giant 22 inch wheels?[/SIZE] did I draw something with those? I dont put flashy wheels on my sketches. Puro stock steel rims nga lang ang na-iimagine ko e. That way, the emphasis is on the body design.

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    Quote Originally Posted by OyiL View Post
    [SIZE=4]giant 22 inch wheels?[/SIZE] did I draw something with those? I dont put flashy wheels on my sketches. Puro stock steel rims nga lang ang na-iimagine ko e. That way, the emphasis is on the body design.
    That wasn't meant as criticism Oyil, like I said, i love your drawings, these are some of my favorites:

    http://i101.photobucket.com/albums/m...007Apr14-3.jpg
    http://i101.photobucket.com/albums/m...007Apr20-2.jpg
    http://i101.photobucket.com/albums/m...007Apr16-1.jpg
    http://i101.photobucket.com/albums/m...007Apr26-1.jpg

    But you gotta admit, some do look like they have unrealistic wheels/tires, but I do know that you're just expressing your artistic freedom in rendering these images (taken randomly throughout this thread):
    http://i101.photobucket.com/albums/m...007Mar21-2.jpg
    http://i101.photobucket.com/albums/m...007Mar20-1.jpg
    http://i101.photobucket.com/albums/m...00006-0001.jpg
    http://i101.photobucket.com/albums/m...007Apr21-3.jpg
    http://i101.photobucket.com/albums/m...007Apr20-4.jpg
    http://i101.photobucket.com/albums/m...007May02-2.jpg
    http://i101.photobucket.com/albums/m...007May09-2.jpg

    No offense was meant and I'm not nitpicking, what I said about 22 inch wheels was strictly tongue in cheek, all in the spirit of realism.

    Anyway, I've said my piece, I'm mentioned I know nothing automotive production, but I do have some knowledge in designing and selling a product around a consumer base. We sometimes get too caught up with our own ideas without realizing that we are making something for OTHER people. We got into that same rut in my company.

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    #674
    Hi guys, I'm new here....anyways, just want to say, keep up the good work and the enthusiasm :2thumbsup:

    Don't worry too much about the naysayers, instead feed off of their negativities. Some of my best work has come from proving something that people tell me can't be done.

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    Quote Originally Posted by jpdm View Post
    For the Critics of PHUV,

    hold your horses, guys....especially those who criticize in high heavens the PHUV and perhaps the up and coming Tsikot PHUV.

    Please, recall the rationale behind the PHUV project.

    Also, Do not worry, first, it is just a prototype, the imperfections can be remedied; second, this country is a democracy, you can be sure the government will not compel/threaten you to buy the PHUV, if fact the government DOESNT EVEN CARE;thirdly, those critics of PHUV in this thread, I've notice dont have Filipino rides (BMW, Focus),thus the PHUV is definitely way too low and inferior for their taste;fourth, the PHUV will not serve the A-B market but the transport and C-D market, puede rin ang OFWs kung magnenegosyo at taga-province;fifth, it is just a start, for GOd's Sake!, an alternative for those guerilla auto/AUV assembly shops using much inferior technology;sixth, it will replace the aging fleet of jeepneys (that is why the MVPMAP signed a MOU with a big transport federation in the country)in the metropolis;seventh, I think its ok for the PHUV to become the tranport workhorse in the countryside;lastly, hindi para pa-cute vehicle ito at sa mga sosyal, di puedeng pansundo sa syota o iparada sa harap ng mga gimikan sa the Fort.It is not also meant to be displayed in the auto shows in Manila or Tokyo or Paris--siguro pag may refinement ok.

    The PHUV project (MVPMAP o Tsikot) is meant to empower us to built our local auto industry. Again, if the PHUV (MVPMAP, Tsikot, Chok)will gain a following from transport groups i.e jeepney federations, transport coop etc.again, I'M PRAYING THAT WHATEVER PROFITS WILL BE EARNED SHOULD BY REINVESTED TO IMPROVE MORE THE VEHICLE. TECHNOLOGY CAN EASILY BE ACQUIRED---PERA LANG ANG KATAPAT!

    SUGGESTION, BILHIN YUNG MGA SINARANG FACTORY NG GM O FORD SA AUCTION--- LOCK, STOCK AND BARREL KATULAD NG GINAWA NG TATA MOTORS BInILI BUS MAKING MACHINERY (GROUP) NG DAEWOO.

    HAY, puede ba maging constructive yung iba!lumalabas pagka-elitista ninyo!!!!!!!!!!!!!
    if this will be popular to transport groups, I forgot to ask diesel ba ito?

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    Quote Originally Posted by oldblue View Post
    if this will be popular to transport groups, I forgot to ask diesel ba ito?
    yes oldblue. It has a diesel engine and torque focused sya. Utilitarian talaga.
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    #677
    I have more faith in the capabilities of the Tsikot PHUV thread posters than the monster vehicle that the MVPMAP has spewed out of its bestial belly.

    That said, what is the spec of the engine? HP/torque? I'm sure, even if it's Chinese, it's probably at least Euro I compliant. So better than those old jeepneys. And, how much does the engine cost? might help set expectations for the PHUV we're discussing.

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    Quote Originally Posted by orly_andico View Post
    I have more faith in the capabilities of the Tsikot PHUV thread posters than the monster vehicle that the MVPMAP has spewed out of its bestial belly.

    That said, what is the spec of the engine? HP/torque? I'm sure, even if it's Chinese, it's probably at least Euro I compliant. So better than those old jeepneys. And, how much does the engine cost? might help set expectations for the PHUV we're discussing.
    I think EURO 1 na sya...
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    #679
    hi to all,

    some more design inputs

    ford SYNus


    ford bronco

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    #680
    hi to all

    some more

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Tsikot.ph PHUV Prototype