Honda Jazz/City CVT Problems. Anyone?

**suysuy** · April 19th, 2008 10:35 AM

Lets share infos in this thread. I have this problem in my 2006 Honda City. It's jerking when the speed is below 30kph-40kph

When i let go of the gas pedal between these speeds, the rpm will suddenly drop to almost 0rpm! Nanginginig nga ang makina eh. It's like parang manual na nakukulangan ng gas at parang namamatay.

Isa pang problema ko is when you release the gas pedal at any speed, ang bilis mag decelerate parang naka engine brake although the rpm stays at 1k. And i can hear a whistling noise.

22k pa ang mileage ko. Never pa na replace ang CVT-F

what should i do mga pare? Replace muna CVT-F? I've tried resetting the CVT. I did the reset procedures but still no avail.

Sino pa ba dito nagkakaproblema sa kanilang CVT? Hindi ganito transmission ko dati. Ngayong lang lumabas ang mga anomalya.

**mbeige** · April 19th, 2008 03:24 PM

What makes you think it's the transmission? Check if you have stuck calipers that are grabbing on the discs. The whistling noise can mean a very high pitched sound related to metal friction. See if you can do this on an isolated road and have somebody follow you safely see if you can replicate the noise, from outside the car your friend can possibly point to a more specific spot.

The reason I said it's not the CVT is because when you release the pedal the RPM drops to 1000, if it's engine braking via the transmission then the RPM should be high up. See if you can also do another test but this time shift the transmission lever to neutral (N) and coast to a stop. Does it feel like something is dragging it to a halt? Do not reengage the shift lever until you're at a full stop to be safe.

Do the symptoms appear above 40kph too? A final test to isolate the brakes is to check if the wheels are hot after a brief drive. At most they should be mildly warm if the brakes are working good. Any wheel that's really hot after a short, leisurely drive will indicate grabbing brakes.

**suysuy** · April 20th, 2008 02:24 AM

*mbiege

pasenxa hehe medyo naguluhan ata kayo sa post ko. it drops to nearly 0. it means the needle is just above na 0 mark. and yeah, ive tried to shift into neutral countless times. i do it everytime when i want to "menor" kasi if you just release the gas pedal, in just about 5 seconds lets say you are doing 50-60kph. in just 5 or less than 5 seconds, your speed will go down to 20. and when it reaches that speed, you can feel a jerk. its like the tranmission just went neutral and the speed will not go down anymore less than 15kph.

another problem ism when you are travelling at 20-30kph, then release the pedal, the needle will jerk from 1100rpm to almost stalling the engine. meaning manginig siya.

and when from any speed to a complete stop, the needle drops down again to almost zero rpm. there is an instance when the engine made a "CLUG!!!" sound. mga 3 times na ata while doing a complete stop. the sound came in front.

its a whistling sound. not a high pitched sound. so definitely not the brakes

**suysuy** · April 20th, 2008 02:27 AM

and yeah what i meant about the "engine braking" feel is that the car actually slows faster that usual. its like having short gears. despite the rpm not rising, the car slows faster than usual. it should coast to almost a complete stop smoothly. but mine does not, it drops to 20kph very quickly then you can just feel the car stabilize at 15kph.

im gonna take a video and post it here

**suysuy** · April 22nd, 2008 01:05 AM

up lang hehe

**mazdamazda** · April 24th, 2008 12:41 PM

Has the casa checked it already? Seems like you are still within the warranty period.

Does that happen also when you switch to the manual mode?

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**mey0r** · February 28th, 2009 03:48 PM

Originally Posted by suysuy

Lets share infos in this thread. I have this problem in my 2006 Honda City. It's jerking when the speed is below 30kph-40kph

When i let go of the gas pedal between these speeds, the rpm will suddenly drop to almost 0rpm! Nanginginig nga ang makina eh. It's like parang manual na nakukulangan ng gas at parang namamatay.

Isa pang problema ko is when you release the gas pedal at any speed, ang bilis mag decelerate parang naka engine brake although the rpm stays at 1k. And i can hear a whistling noise.

22k pa ang mileage ko. Never pa na replace ang CVT-F

what should i do mga pare? Replace muna CVT-F? I've tried resetting the CVT. I did the reset procedures but still no avail.

Sino pa ba dito nagkakaproblema sa kanilang CVT? Hindi ganito transmission ko dati. Ngayong lang lumabas ang mga anomalya.

Is this the 7-speed CVT version? Nagkaroon ata talaga ng problema tong version na to ng Honda. Im not sure kung ni recall to, thats why yung mga sumunod na AT nila hindi na CVT ginamit.

**mm15744** · February 28th, 2009 04:19 PM

Originally Posted by mey0r

Is this the 7-speed CVT version? Nagkaroon ata talaga ng problema tong version na to ng Honda. Im not sure kung ni recall to, thats why yung mga sumunod na AT nila hindi na CVT ginamit.

Meyor, hindi na CVT ang current version ng 2009 Jazz and City not because CVT is not reliable. I have a chief mechanic cousin in Honda and it is the price of manufacturing of the CVT. Mas mahal kc ang CVT, kung ito pa rin ang ginamit sa 2009, konti lang ang kanilang revenue. Thats the reason why they put it back to conventional tranny.

Pero sa Japan iba ang case, may CVT pa rin dun because iba ang labanan dun. May rule dun na every 5 or 10 yr kelangan mo na palitan ang car mo sira man or hindi. Marketing wise, cgurado may business dun. Pero here sa atin, thailand malaysia and others ay iba ang case.

CVT Trannys are the best transmission na nahawakan ko sa buong buhay ko na pagdadrive...in fact, it is recommended by my cousin cheifs mechanic of Honda. So i encourage you all na hindi pa nakakatikim magdrive ng CVT, try nyo at nang malaman nyo ang kaibahan...

Ang naging Issue lang talaga sa 1st batch CVT (2003-2004) are only the fluid. During test run ng CVT on 2003 cyempre ang gamit dun ay yung ordinary AT fluid.

2005 to 2008 are almost perfect na with the use of CVTF R&D'd ng honda at very rare na ang complains. At syempre natuto na rin ang mga honda lovers to religously maintained ang CVT. It will only cost 2500 for fluid change every 20,000 km (that would be equivalent to 2 yrs)...mura maintenance nito mga tol compare sa "SATISFACTION" na ibibigay sa yo.

**mey0r** · February 28th, 2009 04:24 PM

how about yung mga cvt ng lancer na sportronic kaya? nagkaron din ng ganitong problema?

**erwinmojica68** · October 23rd, 2009 08:47 AM

Good day everyone. I have a Honda City 2004 Model I DSI. Matic na CVt Tranny 7 speed. It posted a 114,000 kms. Need to ask a few questions sa mga peeps dito.

1. CVTF ang recommended n langis ng Honda casa . 550/li , apat yun PHP 2,200 . Wala na ba equivalent oil yun na mas mura muna ? Kasi parang unfair naman if Honda Oil lang. Last Tranny change oil ko 78,000km.

2. Pinalitan ko na baterry ko 3x na. Need daw i reprogram ang computer box. Need ba talaga ito> ? Total cost ko PHP 3.086 dito sa Honda Cavite. atras muna ako. Mahal.