LTO to implement RFID tags

[dr. d]

Agree. But it will be more expensive for the toll operator to implement.

everything has a price.
but it is not fair to demand that the public pay for the company's system's in-efficiencies.

like many, i have also had to whip out my card, to be manually scanned.

like many, my remaining rfid cash has also occasionally gone awry.
in my latest fray, upon entry, the machine did not give me info on how much was still in my card. upon exit, the machine said i had only 654 bucks in my card. but in my next transaction, this other machine said i had nearly 3000 bucks!

in the video, the speaking rationalizer said that having not enough money in one's card constituted wasted queueing time for all motorists and was effectively, "obstruction of traffic", and ought to get penalized. personally, i find this logic quite debate-able.
"but what if it was your machine that was causing the problem? is your company going to be penalized?"

[Motortrend]

everything has a price.
but it is not fair to demand that the public pay for the company's system's in-efficiencies.

like many, i have also had to whip out my card, to be manually scanned.

like many, my remaining rfid cash has also occasionally gone awry.
in my latest fray, the machine did not give me info on how much was still in my card. upon exit, the machine said i had only 654 bucks in my card. but in my next transaction, this other machine said i had nearly 3000 bucks!

in the video, the speaking rationalizer said that having not enough money in one's card constituted wasted queueing time for all motorists and was effectively, "obstruction of traffic", and ought to get penalized. personally, i find this logic quite debate-able.
"but what if it was your machine that was causing the problem? is your company going to be penalized?"

I hear ya. I nominate that you attend the consultations and briefings that will be held and represent us, motorists.

[Vodka]

to speed things up, accounts with insufficient balance should be allowed to get through. but then they'll have negative balance so they still have to pay when they reload. why can't they do this? i don't think it's prone to abuse

dunno which country it was but i remember using a transit card that worked this way

[shadow]

Magulang mga pinoy. Magagaling umarte na hinde nila alam na exclusive RFID lane tapos kakampt ulo para lang maka una sa pila.

I'm with the TRB. 100% cardless. If ayaw pa install then sa service road dumaan. Meron naman choice eh.


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[dr. d]

to speed things up, accounts with insufficient balance should be allowed to get through. but then they'll have negative balance so they still have to pay when they reload. why can't they do this? i don't think it's prone to abuse

baka raw i-benta yung kotse para hindi na magbayad ng arrears ang owner; bahala na yung buyer...
or destroy the rfid and apply for a new one.
heh heh heh.

i always observe that the longest line is at the cash lane.
so the solution is obvious: add more cash lanes.

i have another solution: make the toll higher if paid in cash. add a significant "handling fee" to the bill to cover for the additional personnel to man the booth.
tingnan natin kung hindi magpakabit nang rfid ang mga kuripot na 'yan.

[shadow]

i always observe that the longest line is at the cash lane.
so the solution is obvious: add more cash lanes.

i have another solution: make the toll higher if paid in cash. add a significant "handling fee" to the bill to cover for the additional personnel to man the booth.
tingnan natin kung hindi magpakabit nang rfid ang mga kuripot na 'yan.

Eh kasi nga need pa mag sukli, mabuti sana kung exact change ang binabayad ng mga gago. Alam ng walang RFID, alam ng dadaan sa tollway hinde pa maghanda ng exact toll.


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[dr. d]

Eh kasi nga need pa mag sukli, mabuti sana kung exact change ang binabayad ng mga gago. Alam ng walang RFID, alam ng dadaan sa tollway hinde pa maghanda ng exact toll.


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they all know that! yet they choose to go cash. let them knowingly and wilfully suffer for it. alam naman nila na rfid will alleviate their lining up.
tayong naka rfid, we are not affected by that queue, so let's not bother them.

also, cash lane should, in my belief, always be there.
"no system is perfect, and there should always be a failsafe."

[shadow]

If magian ng isang cash lane dapst puto exact change pag buo pera keep the change na agad.


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[Vodka]

baka raw i-benta yung kotse para hindi na magbayad ng arrears ang owner; bahala na yung buyer...
or destroy the rfid and apply for a new one.
heh heh heh.

i always observe that the longest line is at the cash lane.
so the solution is obvious: add more cash lanes.

i have another solution: make the toll higher if paid in cash. add a significant "handling fee" to the bill to cover for the additional personnel to man the booth.
tingnan natin kung hindi magpakabit nang rfid ang mga kuripot na 'yan.

allow to dip below zero only once i.e. don't allow if already negative

rfid is linked to your plate number so you can't get a new one until you settle

[oj88]

The tollways should provide a study or at least statistics.

Ilang percent ang...

1. Walang RFID tag
2. Dilapidated/damaged ang tag
3. Hindi dilapidated pero hindi mabasa sa select booth(s) lamang
4. Hindi dilapidated pero hindi mabasa ng kahit saang booth
5. Kulang ang actual balance
6. Hindi malaman ang balance (internal server issue)
7. etc

That way, malaman nila kung saan sila mag-focus ng efforts para ma-improve ang system.

They should also have roadside troubleshooting booths for those vehicles na perennial problem ang hindi mabasa ang tags kahit bagong kabit.