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March 3rd, 2022 04:01 PM #71sa segment ng altis medyo naiiwan ang toyota.. hehe
ganda ng bagong honda civic ha mas gusto ko yun design now.. siguro kasi may edad na hehe.. yung mazda 3 din elegant yung sedan..
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March 3rd, 2022 04:32 PM #72
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March 3rd, 2022 06:26 PM #73
It was bound to happen.
I guess the (shrinking) compact sedan segment's move upmarket made it pointless for them to keep the manual transmission. Buyers/ fleet buyers would rather get the cheaper Vios. I doubt Toyota was keeping the manual transmission for car enthusiasts.
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March 3rd, 2022 06:46 PM #74
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March 3rd, 2022 06:46 PM #75
We all want a manual on the internet but noone buys them in real life sans the fleet operators.
There are upmarket MTs available (GRY, 86, MX5, STi, CTR) for the well-to-do enthusiasts. The middle class car enthusiast market is too small for manufacturers to order MT versions of econoboxes. There’s always the used car market for those who cling to the stickshift.
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March 3rd, 2022 06:49 PM #76
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March 3rd, 2022 06:53 PM #77
I had a manual Altis and a CVT Civic, the Civic was still way more fun than the Altis.
There’s a lot more to a fun car than just a stick shift. I was also mulling between a manual MX5 and an IS350, and the latter was more fun for me.
Different strokes for different folks, but the market in general has walked away from the MT.
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March 3rd, 2022 06:54 PM #78eh kasi nga lagi traffic.. pero sa ibang bansa yata mabenta pa din manual..
pero ako, i want a hilux 4x4 manual.. hehe
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March 3rd, 2022 07:35 PM #79
Manuals used to be quicker than A/Ts a looong time ago. In those days most A/Ts only had 4 forward gears and M/Ts usually had 5. Aside from the additional driveline loss from having a slushbox vs a manual, the A/Ts also shifted slower. But nowadays manuals are actually slower vs CVTs, DCTs and modern 7/8/9/10 speed A/Ts. M/Ts no longer have the advantage they have because they now shift slower in comparison. And whatever power you save in less driveline loss is be negated by the additional ratios that modern automatics have. So from a performance standpoint no sense in getting the M/T.
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March 3rd, 2022 09:17 PM #80
1M+ for an MT compact is a hard sell. Nobody would be interested. Dami na 2.0L MT compacts na introduce locally but Di talaga bumenta.
Accord 2.0L MT
Civic FD 2.0L MT
Focus 2.0L MT
Impreza 2.0L MT
For those interested in an MT compact with a bit of performance for an affordable price, any one of those would be something worth considering.
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