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    #421
    Quote Originally Posted by coiter View Post
    yup, sila yun. mukhang practice for the EDSA people power celebrations.
    Youre right.

    Air Force jets' fly-bys rattle Ortigas offices | Nation, News, The Philippine Star | philstar.com

    I saw them yesterday morning while I was on the way to Makati. Somehow they made me a bit proud that we again have jet planes, kahit na trainers muna.

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    #422
    Quote Originally Posted by badkuk View Post
    Sir are those F-105 thunderchiefs that escorted pres. Cory ?
    those are F8-H Crusaders bought as 2nd hand in 1977. the planes were retired in the late 60s by the US navy. they bought 35 and they used 10 planes for spares to make 25 planes. meaning they used "surplus" parts to fix "surplus" planes. the F8H purchase was meant to be a stop gap measure as they originally wanted to purchase either 12 F16 or even the F15. the planes were meant to last in service for only 10 years. rumor was the air force officers who recommended the F8-H purchase had sweet deals with Vought. the planes were retired in 1988 as they could no longer source parts and the remaining flying units were damaged by the mt. pinatubo eruption.

    so any one who says "buti pa nung panahon ni marcos may 25 na F8 fighters" are badly wrong. 25 obsolete planes whose main armament are 4x20mm guns and kept flying using surplus parts does no make a credible air force.

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    #423
    The thing about fighter planes...don't you need to have some sort of control center that handles battle info. -- eg if something violated PH airspace, how many and what type, etc? Do we have one in place already? Or else useless yung tech sa F-15s/16s

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    #424
    Quote Originally Posted by badkuk View Post
    The thing about fighter planes...don't you need to have some sort of control center that handles battle info. -- eg if something violated PH airspace, how many and what type, etc? Do we have one in place already? Or else useless yung tech sa F-15s/16s
    i think theres a few places in makati and muntinlupa.

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    #425
    Quote Originally Posted by yebo View Post
    those are F8-H Crusaders bought as 2nd hand in 1977. the planes were retired in the late 60s by the US navy. they bought 35 and they used 10 planes for spares to make 25 planes. meaning they used "surplus" parts to fix "surplus" planes. the F8H purchase was meant to be a stop gap measure as they originally wanted to purchase either 12 F16 or even the F15. the planes were meant to last in service for only 10 years. rumor was the air force officers who recommended the F8-H purchase had sweet deals with Vought. the planes were retired in 1988 as they could no longer source parts and the remaining flying units were damaged by the mt. pinatubo eruption.

    so any one who says "buti pa nung panahon ni marcos may 25 na F8 fighters" are badly wrong. 25 obsolete planes whose main armament are 4x20mm guns and kept flying using surplus parts does no make a credible air force.
    I can't seem to find any picture of a PAF F-8 with Sidewinders (AIM-9B) apart from display units. There is a picture of a PAF F-5 in the same era sporting a pair though. According to Timawa.net we still have stocks of them and during the AFP Day celebrations the Fa-50s were displayed with them attached.

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    #426
    Quote Originally Posted by badkuk View Post
    The thing about fighter planes...don't you need to have some sort of control center that handles battle info. -- eg if something violated PH airspace, how many and what type, etc? Do we have one in place already? Or else useless yung tech sa F-15s/16s
    they have only 1 operating radar station now in san fernando, la union (the old Wallace air station, now named Gozar Air Station) which is also being planned for an upgrade with south korean sourced radar as the present radar has limited range. hopefully the new radar will be a multi-phase array system.

    they plan to put up 2 more. 1 in palawan, probably inside one of the EDCA bases and 1 more in pasuguin, ilocos norte.

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    #427
    Quote Originally Posted by badkuk View Post
    The thing about fighter planes...don't you need to have some sort of control center that handles battle info. -- eg if something violated PH airspace, how many and what type, etc? Do we have one in place already? Or else useless yung tech sa F-15s/16s
    Awarded na yata yung contract for 3 air defense and surveillance radars sa Israeli IAI-Elta Systems last January.

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    #428
    Quote Originally Posted by Yatta View Post
    I can't seem to find any picture of a PAF F-8 with Sidewinders (AIM-9B) apart from display units. There is a picture of a PAF F-5 in the same era sporting a pair though. According to Timawa.net we still have stocks of them and during the AFP Day celebrations the Fa-50s were displayed with them attached.
    the sidewinders rails are on the side of the plane, not on the wing tip.
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    #429
    Quote Originally Posted by Yatta View Post
    Awarded na yata yung contract for 3 air defense and surveillance radars sa Israeli IAI-Elta Systems last January.
    rumor pa lang.

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    #430
    Quote Originally Posted by Yatta View Post
    I can't seem to find any picture of a PAF F-8 with Sidewinders (AIM-9B) apart from display units. There is a picture of a PAF F-5 in the same era sporting a pair though. According to Timawa.net we still have stocks of them and during the AFP Day celebrations the Fa-50s were displayed with them attached.
    Those AIM-9B sidewinders were the 1st generation IR missles bought around the 60s to arm the F-86Ds and the F-5As. The F-8s were rated to carry those missles but were not used. Now the missles are good as junk/decoration, since they are too old even for the FA-50s.

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