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    #21
    Quote Originally Posted by vinj View Post
    Another thought is possibly some put too much oil when they "recharge" the filter?
    That's the one I'm afraid of bro. Given my clumsiness I'd probably over oil it.

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    How much ba ang maf sensor pag nasira ng dahil sa oil?

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    Quote Originally Posted by Wh1stl3r2 View Post
    That's the one I'm afraid of bro. Given my clumsiness I'd probably over oil it.
    It has to be lightly oiled only as it will evenly seep around the element soon enough. You'll see with the pre-oiled filters that it's not really heavily oiled.

    Quote Originally Posted by dct View Post
    How much ba ang maf sensor pag nasira ng dahil sa oil?

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    Depends on the car. A brand new MAF for our Altis cost around 6K i think.

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    Quote Originally Posted by desertst0rm View Post
    That's only a myth. They are just using FEAR to scare you to keep buying overpriced paper filter. Did the "so called experts" showed you any Scientific evidence to prove their theory? May air filter din naman na washable na hindi oil type.

    "If you don't control your mind someone else will"

    2 ang maaring daanan ng air papasok sa engine, sa Air Filter at EVAP Canister Vent.

    I'm using Washable Oil Type Air Filter for more than 15 years and I never experienced a single engine failure. Once lang ako nagkaroon ng konting problema noong first time kong linisin at magrecharge ng oil sa filter. It's either na di pa masyadong dry yung air filter nang nilagyan ko ng oil or baka sobrang dami ng oil na nailagay ko. I'm still using the stock MAF Sensor until now. A Cheap Generic Scantool will give you access to MAF Sensor PID.

    MAF PID * hot idle no engine load
    4.0-5.1g/s
    0.52-0.67lb/min
    0.6-0.9 DC Volts
    There seems to be science here: https://www.tsikot.com/forums/redire...em-filter.html

    Rebuttal?

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    Bro, the MAF sensor issue I'm not really 100% sold on, as it is hard to prove unless maybe we put it under a microscope. Can't swab it as it will damage the sensor. It most likely will not happen on correctly re-oiled filters. But the info on the link oj88 posted clearly shows K&N filters less particles. That info is also shown in the link I posted to the TDI Forum site. That increase in particles will show up most likely as increased silicates in used oil analysis. I don't think it will cause engine failure naman. Just accelerated wear probably. By how much I don't really know. For all we know it might not be appreciable through the natural lifespan of the engine. For me I guess if I will be keeping the car for hundreds of thousands of Km I wouldn't use it. But if I plan to sell the car while it is relatively young Km-wise, it is a good cost saving option.

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    #26
    it's a free country. an old adage from the plebos at the philippine military academy : "i came from the land of kings where everyone can do what he wishes"
    anyone can do what he wants for his car just like getting a tattoo. you might love it, some people around you might like it, some people around you will pretend to you they like it, some people will frown about it, some people really hate it. butum line: it might not be advisable nor necessary

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    Quote Originally Posted by dct View Post
    How much ba ang maf sensor pag nasira ng dahil sa oil?

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    Around 4-10k maf sensor depende sa make at model.

    Di naman nasisira MAF Sensor unless nababasa yung filter or maluwag yung electrical connector. Incase wala sa specs yung pid ng MAF Sensor, buy ka ng Electrical Contact Cleaner (No Residue) sa hardware. Make sure na cold yung sensor before attempting to clean it. Timbangin mo muna yung filter bago mo linisin. If K&N filter mo check mo sa website nila yung weight at volume ng oil.


    Wag ka masyado mag alala. Aandar naman yan kahit disconnected MAF Sensor naka ilaw nga lang ang check engine. Naka disable "Air Metering Mode" pag di na detect ng pcm ang MAF sensor. Disconnect mo lang yung battery for few minutes para mawala yung check engine light.

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    #28
    Quote Originally Posted by oj88 View Post
    There seems to be science here: https://www.tsikot.com/forums/redire...em-filter.html

    Rebuttal?


    MOON LANDING SCIENCE naman yan.




    May nabibili naman na Filter Wrap to add more protection.





    Used Oil type Air Filter for Stock Intake of Ford Expedition, F150 at E150.
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    Quote Originally Posted by desertst0rm View Post
    MOON LANDING SCIENCE naman yan.
    How so? Empirical data was provided in the tests.

    And why resort to memes in a grownup discussion? Are you a child?


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    Quote Originally Posted by oj88 View Post
    How so? Empirical data was provided in the tests.

    And why resort to memes in a grownup discussion? Are you a child?


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    may nabasa rin ako last time sa mga koleksyon ko ng mga motoring magazines regarding air filtration. the best pa rin ang oem. sabi pa nga na mas maigi pa na hayaan lang yung filter hanggang sa kaniyang replacement interval...kasi the dust itself na nagaadhere sa filter will also contribute as filtering media in the long run. so habang dumarami ang dumi na natatrap ng filter e mas lalong lumilinis yung hangin na pumapasok sa makina.

    nga pala, may ninote din na test procedures and protocols dun sa article na iyon....ayoko na kalkalin pa yung magasin ko na yun..nasa ilalim na ng hagdanan namin. maalikabok.


    tsaka anong sense nung bibili ka pa ng filter wrap? bukod sa rason na added protection.
    Last edited by miked; January 12th, 2017 at 11:32 AM.

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