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    #631
    Kung sa dirty kitchen yan, huwag ka na mag Granite, all stainless na lang from counter to back splash then open na lang yun ilalim huwag ka na mag cabinet.


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    #632
    Quote Originally Posted by papi smith View Post
    Thanks, I'll search for that plastic board, also I think the problem is undermount ang sink ko which rests on the plywood so baka bumigay sa bigat. I'm considering a thicker plywood, a thicker stone and a top mount sink na. I'll visit a stone store tomorrow.

    Edit: PVC board ba? Versaply nakita ko, more of for form works ang recommendation nila, baka iba pa ito sa phenolic.
    Mas malaki chance magka leak yata ang top mount na sink. And mas naiipon pa ang dumi around the edge ng top mount sink.
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    #633
    I prefer the undermount design, clean look. Kailangan maayos yung mag install.

    Sa condo nung pinagawa ko which was done back in 2014, wala naman problema. 2 yrs ago sa vacation haus, same undermount design.


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    #634
    Long stopped using wood-based carcases for wet area sub-counter carcasses. Had enough of water & wood-borer troubles. Though pricier, PVC is prettier & lighter than cement board. Concrete? Durable but will be unsanitary once leaks occur...often unnoticed & undectected.
    Sinks? Undermount comes 2nd only to integral. There shouldn't be a 3rd choice.
    Some other points:
    -The most common water ingress point is the faucet base. From usage(constant neck oscillation), the hard-to-reach lock nut under can loosen. A dab of PU seal on the faucet base & some Loctite on that nut will help lengthen the check interval. Keep a sink faucet wrench handy.
    -Avoid pull-down gooseneck faucets on nonFull-SS kitchens. Residual nozzle water can trickle down the retractable hose.
    -Keep the undersink module clutter-free, not just to avoid inadvertent hits on the P/bottle trap & lines, but also for easier leak inspection.
    -Steer clear of in-cab trash bins & grease traps. Not only would these stress & age the carcase system prematurely, upkeep will be tedious & messy.
    -Seal the carcase-wall joints w/ PU seal prior to counter install.
    -Best to opt for joint-free tops w/ integral backsplashes like stainless. Solid surface 2nd. Granite, quartz & the like? Water will eventually compromise the slab/splashboard seams & joints. Great for looks, luxury & bragging, but aren't the most durable & practical.
    Remember, cabinets will only be as good the the top you opt. Think of it as roof & house.
    Hope these humble learnt 2cents are of help.[emoji120]

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    #635
    Quote Originally Posted by shadow View Post
    Kung sa dirty kitchen yan, huwag ka na mag Granite, all stainless na lang from counter to back splash then open na lang yun ilalim huwag ka na mag cabinet.

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    Same sa dirty kitchen namin, no cabinets at open ang ilalim. We just use the cheapest materials (tiles) Sino ba yung nagsabi sa board na ayaw niya ng all stainless kasi mukhang morgue? hahaha! I also don't like it

    Quote Originally Posted by travajante View Post
    -Best to opt for joint-free tops w/ integral backsplashes like stainless. Solid surface 2nd. Granite, quartz & the like? Water will eventually compromise the slab/splashboard seams & joints. Great for looks, luxury & bragging, but aren't the most durable & practical.[emoji120]

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    What's your preference then?

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    #636
    Quote Originally Posted by _Cathy_ View Post
    Same sa dirty kitchen namin, no cabinets at open ang ilalim. We just use the cheapest materials (tiles) Sino ba yung nagsabi sa board na ayaw niya ng all stainless kasi mukhang morgue? hahaha! I also don't like it


    ako.

    sa doity kitchen namin,
    some hollow blocks to make two two flat vertical walls to support a horizontal concrete tabletop surfaced with leftover bathroom tiles.
    nilagyan naman nang few reinforcing bars.

    heh heh.

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    #637
    if you go for granite, it should be one large piece to avoid gaps and the backsplash can be sufficiently sealed.

    There are also large 20mm thick tiles in the market that can be used as countertops, but the corner terminations wont be as nice.

    Stainless Steel dirty kitchens are fine if the owner never uses them hahaha

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    #638
    Quote Originally Posted by _Cathy_ View Post
    Same sa dirty kitchen namin, no cabinets at open ang ilalim. We just use the cheapest materials (tiles) Sino ba yung nagsabi sa board na ayaw niya ng all stainless kasi mukhang morgue? hahaha! I also don't like it



    What's your preference then?
    You can custom fab stainless top w/ integral sink+backsplash & use other media(wood, HPL, acrylic, glass, etc) for the cab faces. Function & form can go together.

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    #639
    whatever happened to those porcelain-surfaced (porcelain-enameled) metal sinks of olde?
    the one with a sink at the center, and drainboards on either side.
    that's the style i want.
    Last edited by dr. d; June 12th, 2023 at 06:55 PM.

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    #640
    Quote Originally Posted by dr. d View Post
    whatever happened to those porcelain-surfaced (porcelain-enameled) metal sinks of olde?
    the one with a sink at the center, and drainboards on either side.
    that's the style i want.
    Kohler has an updated line of undermount enameled cast iron farmhouse sinks. Timeless. Pricey.[emoji4]

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