Taal Eruption 2020

**Yatta** · January 21st, 2020 11:51 AM

Originally Posted by shadow

Hinde ba pwede icompare sa boiling water in a pot or mantika for that matter? Pinaka simple yun suntok? Mas naiintindihan ng mga displaced residents yun suntok?

"lumubog yun pisngi, namaga sa kabila kaya nag crack sa taas" something to that effect...

Kung ganyan mag explain wala talagang makikinig na mga nakatira doon.

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Counter-intuitive kasi. Listen to the Talisay Vice-Mayor when he says water will stop the eruption (fire+water di ba?). But in reality, water actually makes the eruptions more hazardous. I agree though the analogy could be better. But in front of cameras and a live audience when you have only seconds to think and reporters looking for a good sound bite...

**Ry_Tower** · January 21st, 2020 11:51 AM

Originally Posted by Yatta

I get your point. But ang dating sa akin, and I'm probably wrong is may racist undertones. Like "little brown brother needs big white brother" to validate and give weight to his finding.

In another place and time, like a few years ago when a Fil-Am doctor got questioned by an American patient where she got her degree and demanded a white doctor.

Here's a published paper on Taal by my colleague:

A synthesis and review of historical eruptions at Taal Volcano, Southern Luzon, Philippines

Happy we got that out of the way. I am not insuanating that Philvocs is incompetent. It's just that to give an appearance of more credence they have to play the media or communication game.

Hindi kasi naiintindihan ng karamihan punto nila at lalo na ngayon na galit ma mga affected na taumbayan. Aminin man natin or hindi, kahit tama pa sila, kelangan maparating ng maganda yung stand nila para naman hindi yung bugbog sarado sila sa media.

I am pro-Philvocs here ha. Hope that is clear enough with all the ash fall and fart of OB.

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**shadow** · January 21st, 2020 12:20 PM

Philvocs really need a communication expert to bring their message across. Someone tag can break down the scientific terms being used and explain everything in simple manner.

Tapos kailangan talaga visual kung ano pwede mangyari.

Nawawalang ng kwenta expertise and competency nila kung hinde naman maintindihan ng mga tao sinasabi nila.

Currently kahit anong presscon and explanation nun head ng Volcano monitoring na babae. Wala eh hinde talaga maintindihan.

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**Ry_Tower** · January 21st, 2020 12:38 PM

Originally Posted by shadow

Philvocs really need a communication expert to bring their message across. Someone tag can break down the scientific terms being used and explain everything in simple manner.

Tapos kailangan talaga visual kung ano pwede mangyari.

Nawawalang ng kwenta expertise and competency nila kung hinde naman maintindihan ng mga tao sinasabi nila.

Currently kahit anong presscon and explanation nun head ng Volcano monitoring na babae. Wala eh hinde talaga maintindihan.

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Yes, they badly need one indeed. Someone whose job includes reading news sites and socmed to see the "major misconceptions" and shot it down before it circulates even more and be read by people with less discernment.

**Verbl Kint** · January 21st, 2020 12:46 PM

Originally Posted by Ry_Tower

Yes, they badly need one indeed. Someone whose job includes reading news sites and socmed to see the "major misconceptions" and shot it down before it circulates even more and be read by people with less discernment.

That is not PHIVOLCS' job, that is the job of the LGU and the DILG and the PCOO.

We tend to NOT vote for the smartest candidates these days, and vote on those who have appeal to the masses instead or are entrenched oligarchies. This results in local government officials with a science aptitude way below that of an average high school student in the EU.

Case in point: the Mayor of Tacloban during Yolanda, Alfred Romualdez, brought his family to a beach resort where the strongest typhoon in recorded history was about to make landfall. Imagine how many lives could have been saved had he ordered a mandatory evacuation instead.

**Yatta** · January 21st, 2020 12:54 PM

Originally Posted by Ry_Tower

Happy we got that out of the way. I am not insuanating that Philvocs is incompetent. It's just that to give an appearance of more credence they have to play the media or communication game.

Hindi kasi naiintindihan ng karamihan punto nila at lalo na ngayon na galit ma mga affected na taumbayan. Aminin man natin or hindi, kahit tama pa sila, kelangan maparating ng maganda yung stand nila para naman hindi yung bugbog sarado sila sa media.

I am pro-Philvocs here ha. Hope that is clear enough with all the ash fall and fart of OB.

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Unfortunately you using the word "credence" just reinforces my impression. But thanks for standing up for the agency.

Phivolcs tells 'stressed' Talisay vice mayor: Taal advisories backed by science

**Ry_Tower** · January 21st, 2020 01:01 PM

Originally Posted by Verbl Kint

That is not PHIVOLCS' job, that is the job of the LGU and the DILG and the PCOO.

We tend to NOT vote for the smartest candidates these days, and vote on those who have appeal to the masses instead or are entrenched oligarchies. This results in local government officials with a science aptitude way below that of an average high school student in the EU.

Case in point: the Mayor of Tacloban during Yolanda, Alfred Romualdez, brought his family to a beach resort where the strongest typhoon in recorded history was about to make landfall. Imagine how many lives could have been saved had he ordered a mandatory evacuation instead.

But it is the Philvocs who could explain.

Maybe more cooperation with Philvocs and DILG/LGU must be done. Para same page sila and isang mensahe lang nga sasabihin sa taumbayan.

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**Verbl Kint** · January 21st, 2020 01:11 PM

Originally Posted by Ry_Tower

But it is the Philvocs who could explain.

Maybe more cooperation with Philvocs and DILG/LGU must be done. Para same page sila and isang mensahe lang nga sasabihin sa taumbayan.

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The DILG is on the same page. It's the local LGU officials (i.e. Cong. Tolentino of Tagaytay, Tanauan Vice-Mayor, Talisay Mayor) who are not.

And if these LGU officials do not even listen to the DILG then they probably won't let a bunch of brown made-in-the-Philippines nerdy scientists tell them what to do.

**rmolivar** · January 21st, 2020 01:14 PM

A bit OT probably but napansin ko lang, marami pa din ang nagrerefer sa “PHIVOLCS” as “PHILVOCS”.

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**Monseratto** · January 21st, 2020 01:17 PM

Only 8 barangays in Tolentiono's turf are barred from reopening their business establishments... Those that fall under "voluntary evacuation" are allowed to open at the discretion of the LGU(Mayor). Iba talaga ang appeal ni Sen. Beautiful eyes...

DILG: Only 8 Tagaytay barangays covered by mandatory evacuation - News - DILG

"Let me clarify that it's not the entire Tagaytay City but only 8 of its barangays were included by PHIVOLCS as within the Danger Zone, so business establishments may reopen in other areas of the city," he said.

He also clarified that as to these eight barangays, those located in the higher portion of the ridge may be allowed to reopen subject to the sound judgment of the Local Government of Tagaytay.

"Secretary Año has decided that those located in the higher portion of the ridge which based on the PHIVOLCS hazard map have low risk may be allowed to reopen by the Local Government Unit. So, it's subject to the discretion of the Mayor and she will be totally responsible," he said.