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    and the longer taal doesn't explode, politicians are gonna pressure philvocs even more

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    Rings true

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    Di na natapos yung campaign period for some trapos.

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    PNP regional director Danao: Nakikiusap po ako kay Talisay Vice Mayor Charlie Natanauan na tumulong na lang at huwag nang mag-udyok sa mga residente na bumalik. Kapag bumalik pa 'yang mga 'yan at may nangyaring masama, 'pag inabot kitang buhay, iaalay kita sa Bulkang Taal. [emoji23]




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    hirap sitwasyon ng mga LGU

    mga residente nagrereklamo sa kanila

    pero wala sila magawa coz may national govt order

    ipit sila

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    Quote Originally Posted by uls View Post
    yan na ang sinasabi ko pag iinitan ang philvocs but i didn't expect it this soon

    di pala weeks turn into months

    days turn into weeks palang galit na ang mga tao sa philvocs

    affected residents see philvocs as hadlang

    hadlang sa kanilang buhay

    they can't start rebuilding their lives if they can't go back to their land

    if taal doesn't erupt soon mas lalo mahirapan ang gobyerno i-enforce ang danger zone

    people + politicians will be increasingly convinced the massive eruption isn't gonna happen

    That's usually the precursor to a large-scale tragedy. Tapos hugas kamay bigla pag meron masamang nangyari.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Yatta View Post
    Mahirap naman yang gusto mo. Trabahong Digong yan/trabahong tamad/trabahong bastos. Yes this is exasperating work. But you still need to show human decency and respect. It worked for Mayon and look how they fared. The Tanauan mayor already drew flak when she made people sign a waiver they will not receive aid if they went back.

    You want foreigners to tell us how we deal with the crisis? We have our own experts. Yung simpleng Magnitzky Act at ICC nga lang dami na reklamo. We are in constant contact with foreign counterparts, and yes they say the same thing as us. But like I said its professional courtesy to let the local experts say it. How would you like it if your neighbor tells you how to deal with your family? We don't give tell the Japanese, the Icelanders, the Indonesians, etc. how to deal with their earthquakes and volcanoes, so why should they do that to us.

    PHIVOLCS equipment and expertise is at par with other organizations. We're not as poor or as stupid as some people think.
    That is not what I meant. My main point is that Philvocs could probably cite the findings and suggestions of foreigners who are also experts to show that their warnings for people not to return is really founded on good science.

    Kumbaga hindi lang naman sila nagsasabi lang niyan. Para kasi na yung Philvocs ngayon eh kinakainisan pa ng mga taong affected.

    Don't get me wrong, what I want is people to realize the gravity of situation so that they would stop criticizing Philvocs - hopefully. Also I did mot intent for foreigners to dictate to us what to do. Saan naman sa post ko na sila magsasabi ng dapat gawin? What I waould have wanted is cite their own findings and analysis as well but it is still Philvocs that will decide with the cooperation of the admin.

    Please naman pati ba naman dito nagbabangayan pa eh we all wnat the same thing. For this end calmly with Tall simmering down.

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    Quote Originally Posted by uls View Post
    yan na ang sinasabi ko pag iinitan ang philvocs but i didn't expect it this soon

    di pala weeks turn into months

    days turn into weeks palang galit na ang mga tao sa philvocs

    affected residents see philvocs as hadlang

    hadlang sa kanilang buhay

    they can't start rebuilding their lives if they can't go back to their land

    if taal doesn't erupt soon mas lalo mahirapan ang gobyerno i-enforce ang danger zone

    people + politicians will be increasingly convinced the massive eruption isn't gonna happen
    Exactly, philvocs is getting hammered pero I think there is a way to mitigate this.

    As pointed out already, maybe they do need a better spokesperson. Also, maybe more cooperation with DILG para kasam lagi DILG representative to explain the governments decision as recommended by Philvocs. Anything actually to tell people that Philvocs is actually doing their job and as pointed out by Yatta and verbl kint that they are really good at it.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Ry_Tower View Post
    That is not what I meant. My main point is that Philvocs could probably cite the findings and suggestions of foreigners who are also experts to show that their warnings for people not to return is really founded on good science.

    Kumbaga hindi lang naman sila nagsasabi lang niyan. Para kasi na yung Philvocs ngayon eh kinakainisan pa ng mga taong affected.

    Don't get me wrong, what I want is people to realize the gravity of situation so that they would stop criticizing Philvocs - hopefully. Also I did mot intent for foreigners to dictate to us what to do. Saan naman sa post ko na sila magsasabi ng dapat gawin? What I waould have wanted is cite their own findings and analysis as well but it is still Philvocs that will decide with the cooperation of the admin.

    Please naman pati ba naman dito nagbabangayan pa eh we all wnat the same thing. For this end calmly with Tall simmering down.

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    I get your point. But ang dating sa akin, and I'm probably wrong is may racist undertones. Like "little brown brother needs big white brother" to validate and give weight to his finding.

    In another place and time, like a few years ago when a Fil-Am doctor got questioned by an American patient where she got her degree and demanded a white doctor.

    Here's a published paper on Taal by my colleague:

    A synthesis and review of historical eruptions at Taal Volcano, Southern Luzon, Philippines

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    Quote Originally Posted by Yatta View Post
    I get your point. But ang dating sa akin, and I'm probably wrong is may racist undertones. Like "little brown brother needs big white brother" to validate and give weight to his finding.

    In another place and time, like a few years ago when a Fil-Am doctor got questioned by an American patient where she got her degree and demanded a white doctor.

    Here's a published paper on Taal by my colleague:

    A synthesis and review of historical eruptions at Taal Volcano, Southern Luzon, Philippines
    i am reminded of a real story many years ago.
    the rich filipino went to the usa, to consult the white specialist there for his allergy.
    the white allergy specialist said, "why come all the way here? the best allergologist in the world is right there in your country."

    "imported is better."
    after all these decades, it's still alive.

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