Mitsubishi Montero Sudden Acceleration Accidents [MERGED]

[oj88]

The TPG folks are coming off the idea that all Monteros are defect-free... or if the problem did exist, that it can be easily reproduced (ie. stomping on the gas pedal, dropping the gear at WOT, etc.) Respect to them, but I think that their position which they expressed in all absolute certainty that the problem does not exist, is a slap in the face on the victims that sincerely claim that it did.

Just saying.

[gundam]

Naalala ko na naman tuloy.
Corruption na naman at incompetence ng government. Pero OT na yun.

Dapat investigate na car, there might be random codes or ghost in the machine.
MSCP members knows their car very well, some are even modified to maximize power but have not read case like these.
Test yung driver. People contends that its prone to mistake, but still at the end of the day the question is who made the mistake.

[Monseratto]

And you thought MS SUA cases are one too many... But do you hear of local Hyundai SUAs?

Hyundai and Kia Rank 1st and 2nd in Sudden Unintended Acceleration
Real-time News
Friday, September 18th, 2015
BY JUNG YEON-JIN (INFO*KOREAITTIMES.COM)


Hyundai Motor came out on top in the number of sudden unintended accelerations (SUA) among domestic car brands.

Hyundai Motor accounted for 43.6 percent (210 cases) of the 482 reports of SUA in cars from 2010 to the end of July 2015, Rep. Kang Dong-won of the main opposition New Politics Alliance for Democracy (NPAD), who’s on the National Assembly Land Infrastructure and Transport Committee, said Thursday during an annual parliamentary audit of the Ministry of Land, Infrastructure, and Transport.


Hyundai was followed by Kia with 78 cases (16.2 percent) and Renault Samsung with 71 cases (14.7 percent).
Of the SUA complaints, 43.4 percent (209 vehicles) were accompanied by airbag malfunctions -- 88 Hyundai, 33 Kia, 33 Renault Samsung and 17 SsangYong Motor vehicles. Among foreign car brands, Mercedes Benz and Toyota were responsible for 4 and 5 reports of SUA in cars, respectively.


An analysis of vehicles with SUA problems also revealed that vehicles manufactured in 2006-2010 made up 40.5% (195) of the SUA complaints and those manufactured in 2011-2014 41.7 percent (201). By fuel type, gasoline-powered vehicles took 49.0 percent (236), diesel-powered ones 24.3 percent (117) and LPG-powered ones 24.1 percent (116).

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[fireice2]

hard to do with M/T. hehehe

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[fireice2]

hard to do with M/T. hehehe

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[Syuryuken]

Bakit sa MT wala namang SUA


nanggugulo lang po

[CVT]

Bakit sa MT wala namang SUA
nanggugulo lang po

Good point bro.,- unless the accelerator fly by wire implementation of the AT is different from that of the MT....

Another thing is that if the chamber was flooded by diesel fuel because of intermittent fuel injectors,- it can run havoc both for MT and AT variants,- so why AT only?

All it takes is just 1 bit of misplaced data sa electronic control module. Boom! Imagine, Volkswagen can program the car to cheat the emission test? It's that easy! Same goes for making a mistake with the source code for the embedded system. It's that easy! It's also that easy to cover up and sweep under the rug.

It may not be just a bit of misplaced data bro,- but a series of bits of misplaced data[like a ladder AtoD series],- to simulate the analog output of a wired accelerator,- so,- a good number of combinations that may be hard to replicate in a real world, plus the associated checks and controls.

Anyway,- the case of the Volkswagen cheating, as we should all know, is deliberate to fool regulation-tests, so should not be compared.

I have done mission-critical machine language and portable low level language programming/coding in the past (both from training and work), and I can say with certainty that it is quite remote for this to happen,- unless there is a subroutine somewhere that is intended to run randomly[again-deliberate] and was not caught by succeeding quality and reliability checks.

However, based on my separate limited experience serving/supplying the automotive industry,- their qualification and reliability testing requirements are extremely stringent, both SW and HW, nearly military grade. Run-ins for tens of thousands of hours are typical to make sure that systems are practically bullet-proof.

And even a small glitch like a power window not performing as intended,- will make the life of the supplier freeze like hell,- with the (collateral) supply chain turned upside down,- because recalls are expensive and they lose precious market share, because of public opinion.

Sharing my limited experience on this concerning topic.


"The measure of a man is what he does with power" LJIOHF!

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[minicarph]

^ naalala ko tuloy 'to hehe

Kaya nga mag-ingat kayo sa mga ladder frame suvs, lalo na kung nakapark sa front ng mga gimikan

[car_fan]

Sa MT, probably lesser routines to do/monitor yun ecm. I.e. Gear shifting in auto is mostlikely controlled by the ecm based on driver input and sensor feedback from the engine. Unlike in mt, the gear shifting is controlled manually. So probably, the firmware for MTs are relatuvely less compkicated compared to those for ATs. In turn, makikng it less likely to committ mistakes in the codes.