Mitsubishi Montero Sudden Acceleration Accidents [MERGED]

**Stigg ma** · November 20th, 2015 08:45 AM

old tech kase ang mitsu, di pa implemented sa montero wherein the brake pedal wins vs the accelerator safety feature...

**valskie01** · November 20th, 2015 09:23 AM

Originally Posted by cast_no_shadow

Errr you can move the shifter from P without pressing the brakes?

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Lahat ng a/t cars ko You can't move the gear shift lever from P without pressing the brake first. Diba dapat standard safety features ito ng mga a/t cars.

**PJ Sinohin** · November 20th, 2015 10:17 AM

Originally Posted by dr. d

i am curious...
is there something in the montero's ergonomics and/or pedal design, that makes the drivers more prone to mistaking the silinyador for the brake?

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i am curious...
is there something in the montero's ergonomics and/or pedal design, that makes the drivers more prone to mistaking the silinyador for the brake?

this come to my mind too. magkapantay?

**Stigg ma** · November 20th, 2015 10:30 AM

Originally Posted by valskie01

Lahat ng a/t cars ko You can't move the gear shift lever from P without pressing the brake first. Diba dapat standard safety features ito ng mga a/t cars.

nice idea! it made me think!

most probably the disabled cruise control nga ito, why?

case 1: when you start your car nasa P siya, the rev is normal... you press the AT shift button to reverse, no SUA, move the lever from R to N to D, boom SUA!

case 2: start the car, move from P to R to N to D, step on the accelerator, boom SUA!

cruise control does not work on REVERSE!

the premise is DBW - Drive by wire ang montero, therefore disabling the cruise control by the factory/dealer is as simple as a jumper switch or a software version on the ECU... which we all know can fail if not properly designed and tested...

well idea ko lang ito, until this is yet to be proven which i know will not kase ang laki loss nito sa company and they would rather let the issue die, the best way to combat this SUA is presence of mind to push the AT shift lever from D to N, no need to push the safety button...

**dr. d** · November 20th, 2015 10:32 AM

Originally Posted by PJ Sinohin

this come to my mind too. magkapantay?

i don't remember...
magkapantay..? masyadong magkalapit..? the body positioning on the seat? that middle console bulge..?

i currently own a wigo AT. yess, the comparison isn't fair, but i can't bring myself to mistake the gas for the brake in it..

**dct** · November 20th, 2015 11:12 AM

Originally Posted by Stigg ma

old tech kase ang mitsu, di pa implemented sa montero wherein the brake pedal wins vs the accelerator safety feature...

Pag sinabay ang apak ng gas at brake sa montero, titigil sya

**dr. d** · November 20th, 2015 11:17 AM

Originally Posted by dct

Pag sinabay ang apak ng gas at brake sa montero, titigil sya

i was about to ask, do they still manufacture cars whose brakes can not rein in the engine?

**Djerms** · November 20th, 2015 11:38 AM

Sinabi ko nga din yan sa Auntie ko. Sabi ko na hindi yan SUA. Bobo lang siya kaya sumalpok siya sa barrier at muntik na mahulog sa bangin. LOL.

**niky** · November 20th, 2015 11:40 AM

Originally Posted by DacoTyan

But why is it happening only in the Philippines ?

Have literally no idea.

The only factor that makes me hesitate in saying it's completely impossible is that none of the other markets for the MS are left-hand drive. Meaning the Montero Sport may get its own separate production line at the Mitsubishi plant in Thailand.

But the mechanical parts of the LHD mechanism should be shared with the Strada, which is sold in LHD markets outside of Asia.

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Still... Strada zero incidents, (and it's made in the same facilities) Montero Sport... lots. Which is why the demographic factor keeps cropping up in these cases. Stradas are typically owner driven. And owners are typically younger or working age males.

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I've had tips on one or two incidents happening to friends of friends or friends of family, but after asking, they settled with Mitsu na.

Originally Posted by dr. d

i was about to ask, do they still manufacture cars whose brakes can not rein in the engine?

Nope. And as shown in the TGP video done by Ferman Lao before (I was with him at the racetrack when we first tried it, but not when they shot the vid... wala pa ako sa TGP noon)... as long as your foot is firmly on the brake, the MS doesn't have enough torque to break traction. The torque converter locks at a relatively low engine speed, and the turbo doesn't build up much boost before you hit 2,000 rpm. We even tried dropping the transmission into Drive with the engine already revving... all that happens is the engine bogs before the torque converter can lock up.

**confused shoes** · November 20th, 2015 12:11 PM

Error.

Imagine the torque used by the engine going up Marcos Hi-way to Baguio. That should be higher than the torque it used from 0-to moving.

If the brake can not hold the engine from 0-to moving, baligtarin natin yung condition, the car is going down Marcos Hi-way and not all drivers are shifting to low gear pababa, marami na sanang nahulog na Monterosport sa bangin.