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    Quote Originally Posted by Egan101 View Post
    Please get your history right. The area occupied by modern day Ukraine was split between the Austrian empire and the Russian empire. However, much of Ukraine came under Russian rule during the time of Catherine the Great.

    Ukraine fought for its independence during the time of the Bolshevik revolution and separate Ukrainian states were created. These states though were subsumed by the USSR.

    In WW2, some Ukrainians fought with Germany against the Russians. It was of no big result as the Germans were defeated. Ukraine got its independence in 1992.


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    History of Kyiv - Wikipedia

    Ukraine did not start as a big country as it is just like how Athens and Greece are called city states.

    Putin is saying they own Ukraine when in fact Kyiv and Ukrainians have a longer history that they have.

    Kyiv, the center and birthplace of Ukraine was never Russian.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Ry_Tower View Post
    History of Kyiv - Wikipedia

    Ukraine did not start as a big country as it is just like how Athens and Greece are called city states.

    Putin is saying they own Ukraine when in fact Kyiv and Ukrainians have a longer history that they have.

    Kyiv, the center and birthplace of Ukraine was never Russian.

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    Ukraine was just in the middle of Eastern Europe and coveted by empires since the Middle Ages.


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    From what you guys are saying, I guess Ukraine's just like Poland. Parang pinagawayan din and oppressed by neighboring states throughout its history siguro...

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    Quote Originally Posted by Miles_on View Post
    From what you guys are saying, I guess Ukraine's just like Poland. Parang pinagawayan din and oppressed by neighboring states throughout its history siguro...
    Korek. Most of these countries were subjugated by major empires. The end of WW2 brought forth a number of new countries.


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    And this current invasion's like the blockade/invasion of Naboo in "The Phantom Menace".

    Putin's Senator Palpatine a.k.a. Darth Sidous?

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    Quote Originally Posted by Miles_on View Post
    And this current invasion's like the blockade/invasion of Naboo in "The Phantom Menace".

    Putin's Senator Palpatine a.k.a. Darth Sidous?
    Yun nga lang, si Palpatine binoto ng alliance to be leader. Si Putin, kalaban ng Western powers. Hahaha


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    Quote Originally Posted by Ry_Tower View Post
    Sana yung pinag usapan and agree nila is for ukraine to be independent pa rin… pero no allies of either side in terms of military power to avoid escalation(too senstivie si putin sa security nya)… and no attack from russia unless they broke the LOA…
    How i wish…


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    Quote Originally Posted by ray_noel View Post
    Sana yung pinag usapan and agree nila is for ukraine to be independent pa rin… pero no allies of either side in terms of military power to avoid escalation(too senstivie si putin sa security nya)… and no attack from russia unless they broke the LOA…
    How i wish…


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    Sabi sa news both sides have non-compromisable stance that were agreed upon. I do believe independence would be for Ukraine but that they would not further their ambition of joining NATO nor make military agreements with NATO or any other western nation. Yan lang naman dalawa yan pinaka-mabigat na gusto nila. Hopefully in the next few days a ceasefire would be announced na.

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